You know there are so many people on here that talk smack about the drivers. First let me open by saying that I myself do not drive. perhaps an occaisional 1-2 man silent push maybe but for the most part.....its just not my thing. But heres where it gets interesting,,,,,,,,you people want to talk about their practices,,,WHO CARES!?!?!? these guys buy their liscenses just like you and I. And except for a few really jerkfaced idiots, (who still I believe hold record for longest thread) go about their business , renewing their traditions, their way. LEGALLY. I get my chops busted by PA friends about the little bit of bait I put out, and we laugh about it. Even though we live in the horrible state of New Jersikstan, where we are ALL ridiculed for our traditions and hobbies as outdoor enthusiests, we are part of a bigger picture , and that is that we live in America. and the drivers are free to drive, and the sitters are free to sit. if your on public land and drivers come through? oh well, your on public land and you need to sit tight until they come through in a safe manner, and decide if you want to stay or relocate. if your driving and you see a sitter in a stand? oh well, that patch of woods, although your family has been hunting it for generations, is NOT yours, and you hold no claim on it whatsoever, moral, legal , or otherwise. That person might be having their first sit in a tree for the first time, excited as hell for opening day. Not having any idea that you feel these woods belong to you and your gang....I mean club. and your going to go and show him what kind of assholes NJ hunters can be? come on Lets be totally honest here about this land you hunt. BOTH of you stole that shit from the Indians, but you don't see them waiting on the side of the road for you to get into worthless verbal and physical altercations do you?.....we owe it to ourselves to conduct our business in a much better way than that don't we? How about we get our heads out of our arses boys and recognize that infighting is just what those scumbags in Trenton want. we are all hunters, duck hunters, bow hunters, gun hunters, and yes even those sometimes pesky small gamers. they do it their way, you do it your way , and I do it my way. how bout we all wish each other a prosperous and more importantly SAFE remainder of this glorious and EXPENSIVE NJ tradition we uphold every year? GOOD LUCK< SHOOT STRAIGHT> BE SAFE> HAPPY THANKSGIVING