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Ya all gotta be brain dead. Or maybe you're just too dumb to get what I'm saying. I'm responding more to what Ithaca n safe Hunter said. Obviously we should spread out. I refererred to safety. If you can effecctively seperate we should but as someone else stated n perhaps I hadn't thought of it since as a state land guy as a kid the spots are all different..
We do not want to go cutting in front of each other. If you're a duck n douche it's ok though.
The other option is to wait til the masses run through n after they're gone and safely away hunt the birds left in the field. As for the comment about dogs not being in control I'll say I've not seen any of them in control on state land and I challenge BMelvin to show us how in control his dog is. I certainly would have no problem with that.
But I suspect he'll blow more smoke while bragging bout some cur he failed to completely break
 
Ya all gotta be brain dead. Or maybe you're just too dumb to get what I'm saying. I'm responding more to what Ithaca n safe Hunter said. Obviously we should spread out. I refererred to safety. If you can effecctively seperate we should but as someone else stated n perhaps I hadn't thought of it since as a state land guy as a kid the spots are all different..
We do not want to go cutting in front of each other. If you're a duck n douche it's ok though.
The other option is to wait til the masses run through n after they're gone and safely away hunt the birds left in the field. As for the comment about dogs not being in control I'll say I've not seen any of them in control on state land and I challenge BMelvin to show us how in control his dog is. I certainly would have no problem with that.
But I suspect he'll blow more smoke while bragging bout some cur he failed to completely break

wait....we have a second nomination
 
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I don't walk into the field I'll walk all the way around and hunt the back fields. Sorry if you find it unsportman like not to line up with 60 guys who shoot over and at my dog cause thier greedy for a $5 ditch chicken.
 
Ya all gotta be brain dead. Or maybe you're just too dumb to get what I'm saying. I'm responding more to what Ithaca n safe Hunter said. Obviously we should spread out. I refererred to safety. If you can effecctively seperate we should but as someone else stated n perhaps I hadn't thought of it since as a state land guy as a kid the spots are all different..
We do not want to go cutting in front of each other. If you're a duck n douche it's ok though.
The other option is to wait til the masses run through n after they're gone and safely away hunt the birds left in the field. As for the comment about dogs not being in control I'll say I've not seen any of them in control on state land and I challenge BMelvin to show us how in control his dog is. I certainly would have no problem with that.
But I suspect he'll blow more smoke while bragging bout some cur he failed to completely break
Ok well now we have a new idiot on the board. And anyone that knows me on here knows my dogs including the couple hundred kids that have shot over them during the youth day pheasant hunts I help with every year (minus this past year). I have 200 acres in NY of my own private preserve I can hunt anytime I want and guide my clients on it every year. Along with guiding at a few public game farms. I hit the public land more for a change of scenery than anything else. I care more about my dogs than most people care about their children and that beind said I never take a dog onto public land unless that dog is 100% under control. First off because I don't want that dog to get into a unsafe situation and secondly if that dog got shot because you and your "sportsmen" buddies hasn't seen a pheasant in two years and tried to blow one up while it runs over his boots well then I would be going to jail because all that would be left are his boots after he shot my dog. I have never seen you post anything remotely useful about dogs so am assuming you know pretty much as much as the next guy. So to come on here and question guys like myself and deuce who spend countless hours training and prepping our dogs is pathetic on your part and just makes you like a child. I am a member of three differnt retriever clubs and help run two of them. Come on out and take a look anytime you want. Just don't be embarrassed when you realize half the dogs have a higher IQ than you.
 
This is the exact reason I avoid googan fest at all costs. I get up around the crack of 9am. Make a good hearty breakfast read the paper. Load the dog in the car around 10:30 drive 20 minutes to the WMA pull in around 11am to one of 20 empty parking lots. Go 40 yards in from the lot kill the first birds the dog puts up. Walk around for a couple of hours pass on a few flushes to extend the day and kill the last bird for the limit. Drop the dog off at home and spend the rest of the afternoon in a treestand for deer. Who in their right mind wants to deal with all that shit on a Saturday morning. You are out killing hand raised birds that were in a box just hours before. This isn't rocket science. Way Way Way too much thought put into this ditch chicken thread already. This is the exact reason I would like to see a bird stamp increase to 100 dollars and I would like to see the birds spread out on more WMAs around the state. There are tons of WMAs that aren't stocked and lend better upland habitat then the ones that are stocked currently. I also vote for mixing up the stocking dates and making them un announced. And who really cares if a bird is bumped before legal shooting light? Where is it going to go?
 
This is the exact reason I avoid googan fest at all costs. I get up around the crack of 9am. Make a good hearty breakfast read the paper. Load the dog in the car around 10:30 drive 20 minutes to the WMA pull in around 11am to one of 20 empty parking lots. Go 40 yards in from the lot kill the first birds the dog puts up. Walk around for a couple of hours pass on a few flushes to extend the day and kill the last bird for the limit. Drop the dog off at home and spend the rest of the afternoon in a treestand for deer. Who in their right mind wants to deal with all that shit on a Saturday morning. You are out killing hand raised birds that were in a box just hours before. This isn't rocket science. Way Way Way too much thought put into this ditch chicken thread already. This is the exact reason I would like to see a bird stamp increase to 100 dollars and I would like to see the birds spread out on more WMAs around the state. There are tons of WMAs that aren't stocked and lend better upland habitat then the ones that are stocked currently. I also vote for mixing up the stocking dates and making them un announced. And who really cares if a bird is bumped before legal shooting light? Where is it going to go?
They should not announce when they stock trout either. Guys stand around watching them dump them in and then rip them out. Is this really fishing?
 
This is the exact reason I avoid googan fest at all costs. I get up around the crack of 9am. Make a good hearty breakfast read the paper. Load the dog in the car around 10:30 drive 20 minutes to the WMA pull in around 11am to one of 20 empty parking lots. Go 40 yards in from the lot kill the first birds the dog puts up. Walk around for a couple of hours pass on a few flushes to extend the day and kill the last bird for the limit. Drop the dog off at home and spend the rest of the afternoon in a treestand for deer. Who in their right mind wants to deal with all that shit on a Saturday morning. You are out killing hand raised birds that were in a box just hours before. This isn't rocket science. Way Way Way too much thought put into this ditch chicken thread already. This is the exact reason I would like to see a bird stamp increase to 100 dollars and I would like to see the birds spread out on more WMAs around the state. There are tons of WMAs that aren't stocked and lend better upland habitat then the ones that are stocked currently. I also vote for mixing up the stocking dates and making them un announced. And who really cares if a bird is bumped before legal shooting light? Where is it going to go?
I haven't hunted state stocked land in NJ for quite some time now, but when I did, I NEVER went in with the first wave when pheasant hunting. if I went in the morning, I would wait about ten or fifteen minutes...long enough for the skirmish line to get a couple or three hundred yards away. Then I would walk in with my dog. More often than not I would have a solid point in two or three minutes and one bird would be in the bag. Four or five minutes later a second solid point and a second bird and I was on my way out of the field before any of those skirmishers could turn around and come back to try and get a shot.

Mostly though, I would wait until around midday or catch a pheasant stocked WMA on the way back from Greenwood. The grounds would almost always be virtually deserted by then. I would cut the dog or dogs loose and hunt for at least a couple of hours before I limited out. Sometimes I didn't limit out, sometimes I didn't get a decent shot, but I almost always saw birds. Worked for me.

Lots of ways to play it if you have a decent dog.

RayG
 
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