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My good friend and hunting partner BowHunterBob and I are looking into a week long September Black Bear Bow Hunt in Maine.
I have my eye on a couple outfitters, but this one seems a pretty fear place with great accommodations and from the sound of it they really do a great job managing there hunt sites Conklins Lodge & Camps

This would be our first bow bear hunt and our first booked hunt so I have no experience in any of this stuff, but this is one hunt I’ve always wanted to do and life is just way to short to sit back and want to do thing with out actually doing them, so we’re going if and while we can.
Does anyone have any feed back on this place good, bad, or other, also feel free to give me advice and hit us off with tips and opinions on places or outfitters you personally have hunted with for bear up in Maine.

Thanks in advance Paul
 
website looks good. and the price seems right. No mention of success rate or how heavy their bears average. be careful lots of maine bears are under 200 lbs due too extreme hunting pressure. try looking into Canada. May be worth the extra drive. some areas have a spring season and 2 bear limit.
 
"FYI" Interesting reading


A family from Maine that wanted to run a remote lodge in Alaska will have to pay approximately $70,000 in fines and spend the next 10 years on probation after getting tangled in Alaska's web of hunting and fishing regulations.

Lester and Marie Conklin of Conklins Lodge & Camps in Patten, Maine, bought a lodge on Donkey Lake near Skwentna and tried to make it go by selling fishing trips and sidling around state laws on bear hunting. State laws say only licensed guides can help out hunters in Alaska, but obtaining a license as a guide requires serving an apprenticeship as an assistant guide.

To get around that requirement, the Conklins, according to court documents, sold fishermen at their lodge access to black-bear bait stations.

That, according to Alaska State Troopers, was a violation of state outfitting laws. Troopers charged the Conklins with six counts of illegally providing outfitting services, and six more counts of setting up bait stations "within one mile of a dwelling or a residence.''

The residence was the Donkey Lake lodge. The Conklins put bait stations within a quarter to a half mile to provide the easiest possible access for clients.

Trooper investigator Katrina Malm said the Conklins appear to have known they couldn't put bait stations so close to their lodge or let others use them. A forensic examination of their computer showed they had been reading up on Alaska hunting regulations before starting their "fishing'' lodge.

Situated high in the Yentna River drainage about 100 miles north of Anchorage, Donkey Lake is not a very good place for fishing, she said. Salmon that go that far upstream don't arrive on the spawning grounds until late in the season when they are not in the best condition. There is some decent northern pike fishing in the lake, but hardly any anglers come to Alaska just to fish pike and those who do can find good pike fishing near Wasilla.

LODGE DREAM, LICENSES GONE

The Conklins' dreams of an Alaska lodge now appear to be over.

After a hearing Tuesday at which a judge accepted a plea deal from Lester, Marie and their son Jason, Malm said "the indication I got was that they weren't going to remain in Alaska.

"All they're basically able to do with their lodge at this point is conduct sportfishing operations.''

Sportfishing at Donkey Lake won't pay, and the Conklins need money because they are facing some hefty bills here.

Lester agreed to pay the state $44,000 in fines; Marine settled for $18,000 , and Jason was hit with $8,000. There were also jail sentences that ranged from 70 to 300 days, but all jail time for all of the defendants was suspended.

Along with paying a total of $70,000 in fines, the Conklins were collectively ordered to forfeit to the state a boat, boat motor, recreational vehicle, and the hides of one brown and one black bear, plus reimburse the state to the tune of $1,900 for shooting the two bears.

Lester lost Alaska hunting privileges for 5 years, Marie for 10, and Jason -- who was already in trouble for a hunting violation in Maine -- for 10.

According to a press release from troopers, video and other evidence showed the Conklins engaged in a lot of other illegal shenanigans for which they weren't charged.

"The Conklins used ... sport caught fish as bait,'' the press release said. "Lester Conklin killed a brown bear without a guide that troopers believe was attracted to the area by a recent molasses burn.''

It is illegal to bait brown bears, and as a nonresident hunter, Lester was required to have a guide.

As part of the plea agreement, charges related to these and other possible violations were dropped.

Those violations, according to the original complaint, included obtaining resident hunting and fishing licenses while nonresidents, snagging fish, taking over-limits of fish, and -- in the case of Jason -- obtaining an Alaska hunting license when his hunting privileges were suspended in Maine. Alaska law makes it illegal to come here and get a license to hunt when you've been banned from hunting in another state.

TWO-YEAR INVESTIGATION

The investigation of the Conklins began in 2005 when a trooper went to Donkey Lake to check on a report of a grizzly bear shot in defense of life and property. To do so is legal, but troopers eventually concluded that wasn't what happened at Donkey Lake. They say the bear was actually shot after being attracted to that molasses burn.

Troopers got curious about the Conklins and went back to their lodge in June 2006 to check on bait stations the couple had registered with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. The registered bait stations turned out to be too close to the lodge, and unregistered bait stations were also found.

Then, according to the complaint, troopers talked to a client of the Conklins who said Lester offered to provide the services of a guide "including skinning, processing, freezing and transporting the bear hide to a taxidermist. E-mail communications between Lester Conklin and (the client) further indicated that (he) believed he was booking a guided bear hunt for the discounted price of $2,495.''

The Conklins were not answering the phone at their Maine lodge on Tuesday. A message left on the answering machine elicited no response.
 
i have been to maine bear hunting a bunch of times and im going again this year. the average maine black bear is 150 lbs. last time i checked but there are some nice ones too.the real big brutes wont bother with the baits and are better hunted during the hound season. on a good year id say your sucsess rate is about 40%. ive been to ontario canada several times too and the bears are a little bigger and sucess a little higher.the outfitter im using is a sporting camp and rents furnished cabins for the week.you bring your own food.i like it because you can bring the family which most bear outfitters only allow just the hunters in camp for the week .september bear hunting in maine is kinda relaxed. you dont have to head for your stand til 4pm in most cases so you get to sleep late and fish during the day. also the moose are running around that time of year so be careful and bring a camera.
 
Here is my story which is the truth of what happened to my family and I. I have cut and pasted my response to this in the North American Hunter forums and I leave it up to each of you to decide about this story.

Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:51 AM

Joined: 9/28/2007
Posts: 17


Although I do not know who Anonoymous is, I do feel that the members in this forum need to hear my side of the story.

My Name is Lester Conklin and I do own and operate Conklin's Lodge and Camps in Maine and in Alaska.

For starters I did not plead guilty to anything, I plead no contest. Yes, I could have gone to court and had a trial but it would have cost me double just for lawyers and court costs,so it was a matter of economics.We are not rich,just hard working people who got screwed!

The charges were illegal bear baiting,which was my legally registered bait sites in Alaska were not a mile from a dwelling.They were 7,8 and 9 tenths of a mile from a seasonal cabin and not my Lodge. State law says anyone can use these sites as long as they are not charged for them. Also, anyone can go Black bear hunting in Alaska and are not required to hire a Big Game Guide,which I never said I was.

Please keep in mind that our location in Alaska is 100 air miles from the nearest road !

As for Outfitting without a license, I did let clients use boats for fishing and if they saw a bear while fishing on the lake and had their rifle with them that they could legally shoot the bear, but according to fish and game I was outfitting by letting them use my boats. If they wanted to use the bait stations they could use them free of charge, which Alaska state law says is legal to do. Because of a disgruntled client that did not see a bear while he was in Alaska this all came about.

We are hard working people that have had 100's of clients from the club here in Maine and have had all good reveiws as you can see by references through the club.

I have owned and operated Conklin's Lodge and Camps for 23 years in Maine and have never had a violation. My wife Marie has never even had a traffic ticket. My son was on vacation at the Lodge and also got drug through the mud.

I have kept quiet about this with the hopes that it would all disapear and we could go on with our lives,but there seems to be a few that are unwilling to state their names and want to keep tarnishing our good name by posting bad things about us. Anonymous is either a competitor in Alaska or Maine or the disgruntled customer I spoke of or possibly even one of the troopers involved in this case. If I am wrong Anonymous, tell us all who you are!! All of the charges were misdemeanor infractions and after their big investigation which must have cost them thousands of dollars to conduct, they found nothing that would substantiate their actions against me and my family. So what better way than to put all of us into one pot and make it so we either all plead to these charges or force us into each getting our own lawyers and having separate trials. My lawyer told me that if we did not take their plea bargain we could expect to pay for 3 separate trials somewhere in the amount of 100-150 thousand dollars!!! On top of that he felt sure that we would lose on the bear bait stations being too close to a dwelling and the judge could charge us the max of 10,000 dollars per site and 30 days in jail. I ask each of you to seriously think about what you would do in my situation.

All I can say is Alaska is 1 of the most corrupt states in America and there are 50 other businesses there that offer the same things to there fishing clients,but they chose to use me as an example because I'm from OUTSIDE !!!

As far as killing a grizzly bear without a guide.I did so to save the lives of 2 clients and notified the authorities promptly and was cleared.Then 2 years later they say I falsified the report. If you don't believe me please feel to e-mail me and I will supply you with the name of the couple who's lives I was protecting and they can tell you the story.

We did have and still do have all the nessecary licenses to conduct our sport fishing operation in Alaska and do still hold a Master Maine Guide License in the state of Maine.

All I can say is,don't beleive everything you read in the newspaper.

Should anyone have anything to say about my wife and I, I would appreciate you email me directly and keep it off the forum boards unless you know the whole story.

Thanks for your time.

Sincerely;

Lester Conklin

Master Maine Guide
 
this was my last post on NAHC forum and will be my last on this subject. This was in response to a response to my first post.Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:50 PM

Joined: 9/28/2007
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This will be my last post on this forum. METRACKER, I am sorry you feel this way. Yes I plead NO CONTEST and therefore in the eyes of the court I am guilty, but they are misdemeanors and I did not knowingly commit any crimes. I sold fishing trips and if I could have gotten my computer back from them and had the money for a computer forensic examiner to extract my e-mails I could have proven my innocence. Unfortunately, the way that works is I would have had to turn down the plea and gone to trial which was just not in my budget or heart to put my family through. I had many clients that were willing to come and testify on our behalf but again it is a matter of economics, the cost would have been astronomical. In reading the report in the Anchorage Daily News all I can say is all of the things they say we did and were not charged with are a "crock" They say we had sites that were not registered--LIE #1, We used bait fish for baiting--LIE #2, We attracted a brown bear with a molasses burn--LIE #3, We engaged in a lot of other illegal shenanigans for which we weren't charged--LIE #4 and the list goes on. I guess people will believe what they want to believe and there is nothing more I can do about it. Knowing that I am not this criminal they have made me out to be, I will sleep at night and go on with my life. I have hundreds of customers over the years that know me and the ethics I follow in running my business. I find it ironic that you want to strip me of my licenses here in Maine and yet there are felons out there that hold a Maine guides license. There are even game wardens that were convicted felons and were given pardons in order to enter the warden service in Maine, so think of me as you wish but I will never give up what I love to do and do it well. Do you think that anyone who gets a DUI should never be able to drive in America again and OH yes what are your feelings on the Colonel of the Maine Warden service that just recently got caught with short lobsters and had to resign. We all make mistakes but I guess it is all who you know or don't know. Was he ever even charged with anything? I don't follow the newspapers as the media is usually only 50% right in their reporting.
 
I just went back to NAHC Forum and someone posted a response today so I figured I would post this too. As far as Jason, he is 28 years old and don't know why they drug him into this except to make it harder for us not to take the plea. He did have a criminal mischief charge back in 2005 for shooting at a stuffed deer (during daylight hours) but not far enough from a tarred road. Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:42 PM

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I don't know the Conklins or do I condon violations of any law, but this article has a lot to be desired and appears to be quite one sided.

How could anyone be accused of doing something wrong by reading up on Alaskan hunting laws with his computer, sounds like a prudent thing to do if one has just moved to a new state , especially after purchasing a lodge.

I have to admit I'm guilty of that myself.

The article has also made statement of other shenanigans they are guilty of... what shenanigans are they refering to? Why would anyone print this without facts?

The article goes on and says "Lester Conklin killed a brown bear without a guide that troopers BELIEVED was attracted by a recent molasses burn" they couldn't prove it ,they only believed it?

The article also printed "they dropped other POSSIBLE violations" Possible violations!!! they're either violations or they're not.

Again I'll reiterate I don't know the Cronklins, but if the investigation was a poorly prepared and written without facts as this article , I think they got shafted.
 
Hi All,

My name is Marie Conklin. I have not responded to this story at all as I still can't believe I was charged with 6 counts of outfitting. I am a simple person that loves the outdoors and has loved catering to hunters and fishermen for over 23 years with my husband. I am 49 years old and have never even had a traffic ticket in my life. They charged me with outfitting without a license. Apparently the law says that I can feed and house my guests if they are fishing but not if they do any hunting. So they charged me $3,000 per count for a total of
$18,000!!!! I don't call this whole thing a plea bargain, I call it blackmail. I used to believe in the death penalty because I believed in our justice system, but not anymore!
 
I hunted 6 times in canada for black bear and became pretty close friends with the guide. Learned alot, the one thing he did teach me is that if you are going to a lodge the area is probably been hunted regular and therefore the bears won't be that large. He was in 1 area for 1-2 years then he would move. I have shot 2 pope and young black bears there and 2 very close to pope and young .... I would give you his name but he is officially retired. In his camp i did meet chuck adam, the golden eagle team and don clark founder of bow hunter magizne... Pretty cool company.... Good times with good people.
 
how did this maine guide know some1 talked about him in here[spy]very scary[eek]
 
how did this maine guide know some1 talked about him in herevery scary
NJH is one of the more active hunting sites in the country and alot of NJ hunters hunt Maine..I am sure he has clients on this site...

There is always 2 sides to a story...I have to give kudos for coming on the site and defending his position..

Paul, I have hunted with Bob parker at http://www.stonybrookoutfitters.com in both his Maine & New Brunswick Camps..He runs a great operation and if you do your part, you will have a great chance at killing a bear..PM me if you need more info..
 
I've been bear hunting in the Portage Maine area for the last three years. I would highly recomend Hunters Point Guide Service. They specialize in bow hunting for bears. The stands are set up for a good bow shot. You will see bears. They only take a limited number of hunters out and the spots fill up quickly. Most of the better guides are already booked up for this year. I will be hunting with them again for the first week this year. I got a 390+ boar last year with a pistol. I'm taking my 12 year old up this year. Given my past experience up there I expect he will have opportunities to get a good one.

We usually fish, kayak and mountan bike in the mornings and then head out in the afternoons for bear. If you get one early in the week you can go out for coyotes too. There are plenty of them up there.

I know quite a few other guides in the area. Some good. Some not so good. I'd be glad to help you out in finding what you are loking for. hunterspointeguideservice.com
 
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