I just finished reading an article in a hunting magazine I subscribe to, and it mentions states like Kansas & Ohio. Where they are only allow one buck a year. Both of these states rank high in the number of big buck taken every year. Do you think that one buck a year would first work, second help NJ to get recognised for its big bucks as well. A deer management program like this would most likely allow little bucks the opportunity to grow before they are harvested.
One buck a year
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Let me Finish this Here for you Guys "THE ! BUCK A YEAR THING IS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN HERE IN NJ. WHY? Because $28.00 for a Buck tag for Extended Bow $28.00 for Buck Tag for Shotgun. $28.00 for Buck Tag for Muzzy. Am I Missing a Buck Tag? Its ALL ABOUT THE MONEY[down][down]Plain and Simple....Now Chew My Ass if you like[tasty][tasty][tasty]
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from what lungbuster and btown said a place like the pines in south jersey alot of that area is hunted by guys who shotgun week only so a buck comes by and he wants meat for the freezer who is to judge if he shoots it long as it is legal it is in the freezer!! can't shoot does during shotgun week right?
what about a 15 year old boy second time out sees a y buck come out he shoots it. frown upon him for not practicing qdma or congrats to him on his first deer?
i bowhunt muzzleload and shotgun hunt as many of us do but what about the guy who doesn't limit him to 1 buck? kinda sounds like a good way to push our brethren out of the sport all together
a hunter should know his limits and the limits of the game at which he hunts
don't get me wrong i wanna see bigger bucks and kill bigger bucks just as much as the next guy but it kinda hinders what the sport is all about?? a y buck taste just as good as a 8 point basket rack
what about a 15 year old boy second time out sees a y buck come out he shoots it. frown upon him for not practicing qdma or congrats to him on his first deer?
i bowhunt muzzleload and shotgun hunt as many of us do but what about the guy who doesn't limit him to 1 buck? kinda sounds like a good way to push our brethren out of the sport all together
a hunter should know his limits and the limits of the game at which he hunts
don't get me wrong i wanna see bigger bucks and kill bigger bucks just as much as the next guy but it kinda hinders what the sport is all about?? a y buck taste just as good as a 8 point basket rack
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I myself think Will is on to something. I wouldn't mind to see a "NO" buck policy for 2 seasons except for active military and kids. With all of the other stuff implemented coming in to play this fall QDM should be the next thing on the list. My take on the bag limit would be 1 with the bow and 1 with the gun like Iowa and Illinois. Sure would be nice.
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I live in PA and it's one buck a year and 3 points on one side in the east and 4 points on one side in the west. I like it. You just have to be a little more selective or your season is over on opening day of bow and you don't even get to hunt with the rifle. I think if it NJ limited it to one buck per weapon it would be better. 6 bucks per season is way to high and unlimited doe in Jersey is hurting the population in many parts of the state especially on WMA's
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I like these rules
SEASONS
DATES
LIMIT*
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Archery
(excluding Crossbows)
Statewide
Sept. 1 – Jan. 31
4*
Hunters may use archery equipment during the muzzleloader, shotgun and handgun seasons provided they wear at least 400 square inches of hunter orange material displayed on the head chest, and back.
Muzzleloader
Statewide
Oct. 9 – Oct. 17
Jan. 25 –Jan. 30
4*
Muzzleloaders may be equipped with scopes. Crossbows may be substituted during the January Muzzleloader Season. Crossbows must be from 150 to 200lbs. and manufactured after 1980.
Shotgun
Statewide
Nov. 13 - Nov. 21
Jan. 16 - Jan. 23
Crossbows may be substituted during the January
Shotgun Season and the November Shotgun Season from Nov. 17- Nov.22. Crossbows must be from 150 to 200 lbs. and manufactured after 1980.Muzzleloaders may be used during the shotgun season, and may be equipped with scopes.
Special Antlerless
Statewide
Oct. 2-3
Oct. 19
Oct. 23-24
Oct. 26
Oct. 30-31
Dec. 12-19
4*
This season is “any method,” to include archery, muzzleloader, and shotgun. You may only take antlerless
deer, or deer with both antlers less than 3 inches in length. Archery hunters may take antlered bucks in October but NOT during the December antlerless season. Crossbows may be used during the Dec. seasons.
Handgun
Jan. 2 - Jan. 9
4*
The handgun must be carried openly in a sling or in a holster and not concealed. See page 22 for more details.
Youth Hunt
Nov. 7
4*
2009-2010 DEER SEASONS AND LIMITS
DEER HUNTING
*NOTE ON LIMIT- THE GENERAL BAG LIMIT ON DEER IS 4 ON LICENSE TAGS. THIS IS BY ALL METHODS AND SEASONS COMBINED. ADDITIONAL DEER MAY BE TAKEN ON SPECIAL TAGS.
IT IS NOW LEGAL TO HUNT DEER WITH A HANDGUN DURING ANY SHOTGUN DEER SEASON. THE
HANDGUN MUST BE USED IN PLACE OF A SHOTGUN. YOU CANNOT CARRY BOTH IN THE FIELD AT
THE SAME TIME.
ONLY 2 ANTLERED BUCKS MAY BE TAKEN DURING ANY LICENSE YEAR BY ALL METHODS AND
SEASONS COMBINED.
SEASONS
DATES
LIMIT*
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Archery
(excluding Crossbows)
Statewide
Sept. 1 – Jan. 31
4*
Hunters may use archery equipment during the muzzleloader, shotgun and handgun seasons provided they wear at least 400 square inches of hunter orange material displayed on the head chest, and back.
Muzzleloader
Statewide
Oct. 9 – Oct. 17
Jan. 25 –Jan. 30
4*
Muzzleloaders may be equipped with scopes. Crossbows may be substituted during the January Muzzleloader Season. Crossbows must be from 150 to 200lbs. and manufactured after 1980.
Shotgun
Statewide
Nov. 13 - Nov. 21
Jan. 16 - Jan. 23
Crossbows may be substituted during the January
Shotgun Season and the November Shotgun Season from Nov. 17- Nov.22. Crossbows must be from 150 to 200 lbs. and manufactured after 1980.Muzzleloaders may be used during the shotgun season, and may be equipped with scopes.
Special Antlerless
Statewide
Oct. 2-3
Oct. 19
Oct. 23-24
Oct. 26
Oct. 30-31
Dec. 12-19
4*
This season is “any method,” to include archery, muzzleloader, and shotgun. You may only take antlerless
deer, or deer with both antlers less than 3 inches in length. Archery hunters may take antlered bucks in October but NOT during the December antlerless season. Crossbows may be used during the Dec. seasons.
Handgun
Jan. 2 - Jan. 9
4*
The handgun must be carried openly in a sling or in a holster and not concealed. See page 22 for more details.
Youth Hunt
Nov. 7
4*
2009-2010 DEER SEASONS AND LIMITS
DEER HUNTING
*NOTE ON LIMIT- THE GENERAL BAG LIMIT ON DEER IS 4 ON LICENSE TAGS. THIS IS BY ALL METHODS AND SEASONS COMBINED. ADDITIONAL DEER MAY BE TAKEN ON SPECIAL TAGS.
IT IS NOW LEGAL TO HUNT DEER WITH A HANDGUN DURING ANY SHOTGUN DEER SEASON. THE
HANDGUN MUST BE USED IN PLACE OF A SHOTGUN. YOU CANNOT CARRY BOTH IN THE FIELD AT
THE SAME TIME.
ONLY 2 ANTLERED BUCKS MAY BE TAKEN DURING ANY LICENSE YEAR BY ALL METHODS AND
SEASONS COMBINED.
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You guys will jump all over me for this but, I would like to see the seasons shortened. Do away with the Sept. bow season, one buck for all archery, one buck for muzzy, one buck shotgun, and shorten the Jan shotgun season to Jan 15.(I like hunting in Jan) Get rid of the hunting in Feb. Limit does to 1 per weapon. That would be a max of 6 deer per year.
Don't like antler restrictions, but as I have gotten older I have gotten much more selective. I used to be a brown its down guy. Maybe a no spike rule.
Kids under 18 can shoot whatever they want.
Just my 2 cents.
I do know a hunter who takes 30-40 deer a year. To me that is just a game hog.
Don't like antler restrictions, but as I have gotten older I have gotten much more selective. I used to be a brown its down guy. Maybe a no spike rule.
Kids under 18 can shoot whatever they want.
Just my 2 cents.
I do know a hunter who takes 30-40 deer a year. To me that is just a game hog.
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do away with the gunning clubs and practice qdma.only shoot 2 bucks for all seasons.... THATS IT
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Thats what I was thinking too.[up]
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Our opinions don't matter. I know I am not on the state game council. I posted my opinion earlier I think 2 bucks a year should be the limit. I wish I had the final say,, But I am just like every one else sitting on a key board typing my opinion on a public forum..
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Amen! Most guys that have either been hunting for many years and consistently shoot mature bucks think that their sh*t doesn't stink and everyone else should shoot big bucks or no bucks. Also most guys don't have any idea about the state deer herd, only what they see in their piece of woods. I tell you what, I personally practice QDMA so i'm not knocking it. But who are we to judge what is the correct amount of meat to fill a family's freezer or what anyone elses standards are when it comes to what they consider a trophy in their eyes? I live in south jersey and these laws you guys think would be awesome statewide would completely not fly down here. And let your hunting experience and talent speak for itself. If guys are such good hunters they won't have a problem killing a mature buck anyway. But don't tell everyone else that they are wrong for shooting what they shoot.
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Don't get me wrong I agree with alot of the things you guys are saying. I think unlimited does is a little overboard. Also I wouldn't be against some restrictions here and there maybe no spikes or something. But 1 buck a year and 2 does?[down][eyeroll]C'mon. If that's all u wanna shoot then only shoot 1 buck and 2 does. But don't knock the next guy who is inexperienced or has a big family to feed all year. This state will never be a mid-west trophy state and shouldn't even be compared. And who cares if it's one of the top? I'm sure all the hunters who live in Pike County love the fact that their place is the best. Their public land is overrun/non-existent and all private land you have to pay thousands to hunt. I'm sure they're loving that[eyeroll]
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You give QDM a couple years and he will see way more then a spike and Y. Think about it , what will that Y be in a couple years ? Yes it will be hard for a year or two but then what ? BIGGER BUCKS thats what.
Put two deer in front of that same 15 year old. One being a Y buck and one being a nice 115 to 120 8 pointer. What one is he going to take a shot at ?
QDM works and no one can say it doesn't. Look at the states that do it big bucks all around.
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