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We've already established as Fact that bows Can and are rested......."on the knees" is not relevant "rested" is in Fact rested...

AND since the "rest" also allows for full draw MUCH longer.....any perceived "advantage" isn't enough to matter since in Fact we're NOT talking about some "competition" here anyway between hunters....
Ace,didn't post to argue but it is a fact that having something sitting on your knee ready to go has an advantage. You state the advantage isn't enough to matter. That's turning your eyes to anything that proves the xbows advantage. And your pal awshucks jumps in with his usual assinine behavior about recurves compared to compounds. THEY BOTH HAVE TO BE DRAWN awshucks GET IT. Ace i've asked your reply on the last couple of posts and treated you with respect and most of all fairly. You guys just can't address anybody stating opposition about xbows period. I stated a simple to understand post and you and shucks twist it any way you can. Now do you understand where the opposition comes from,you create it.
 
You state the advantage isn't enough to matter. That's turning your eyes to anything that proves the xbows advantage.
Ace,didn't post to argue
"I" didn't either......

We'll simply agree to disagree, "I" say "rested" IS rested.....period.....

"I" don't care about perceived "advantages" because MOST don't hunt as a competition between other hunters :D

Ace i've asked your reply on the last couple of posts and treated you with respect and most of all fairly.
As I have also done with you......

Now do you understand where the opposition comes from,you create it.
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NO one "twisted anything" at all......

"I" stated easy to confirm Facts.........No more and No less....

IF the truth creates opposition as you stated then what type of "person" is OUR opposition then? :D

What most of the "opposition" Fail to understand is that Awshucks and I either have been or still are Traditional Bow Hunters.....

We "know a thing or two about a thing or two" when it comes to bow hunting AND (more importantly) it's Future.......

Bash us for that If you wish.....
 
We have all of our deer stands in PA with lower shooting rails so my cousin and uncle can use their crossbows in them.
I don't doubt that "at all", I also don't see "any real advantage" in a recreational (not competitive ) sport, as bow hunting is and should remain.....

Maybe IF we were talking about competitive archery shooting but the Facts prove crossbows don't win their either :D

Also please ask them "how easy" is a second shot from the tree stand :D
 
A compound bow includes a cam configuration permitting the force line of the harness cable to effectively act through a portion of the axle pin. This permits, in this bow design, 100% let-off. An adjustable bushing or a modular cam portion enables the archer to adjust the let-off in a range of between 85% and 99+%. Single and double cam bows are disclosed.
Now I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about compounds, but can someone explain to me why they could not take a 99% or 100% let off compound, draw it and then hang it drawn on a hook? Being a dumb hillbilly, I can't see why the weight of the bow wouldn't hold it drawn.

Fwiw. I rest my xbow every chance I get. I guess that small advantage must be negated by the limited shooting lanes they have compared to a vert bow or the harvest stats would show a bigger difference. The real challenge in bow hunting hasn't changed for me since I hung up the recurve. That remains the same, hobbling my clumsy, stinky, boogered up azz to somewhere that a dumb deer may just walk by. I usually find one or two a year.
 
What most of the "opposition" Fail to understand is that Awshucks and I either have been or still are Traditional Bow Hunters
Whether your traditional archers or not,that has nothing to do with the fact that they definatly have an advantage.By your way of thinking s shotgun with buckshot has no advantage either. It has a trigger,can be shot sitting down,and a true effective range of only 50 yards. differance in type of propultion is the only real differance.
 
By your way of thinking s shotgun with buckshot has no advantage either
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Please don't attempt to "speak for me", I'm quite capable of stating my own opinions and I would Never make such an absurd statement.........[down][wallmad]
 
IF the truth creates opposition as you stated then what type of "person" is OUR opposition then?

The truth is only what you have to say it seems. Turning you head on the obvious advantage is what creates the opposition. I never said the advantage is why they should't be here,I just stated the FACT that they have an advantage in the situation i described. Don't assume an argument for why or why not,just admit that it's possible.
 
Turning you head on the obvious advantage is what creates the opposition
There is a Huge difference in "not caring" about any advantage and "turning one's head to it".....

Or pointing out the obvious..... :D

Just in case I was somehow not clear, "advantages" (whether Real, or simply "perceived" ) don't matter in a non competitive sport....Fact

Bow hunting is Not (nor should it ever be) a "competition between hunters" ....competition between Each hunter and the game Yes......between hunters No.....
 
There is a Huge difference in "not caring" about any advantage and "turning one's head to it".....
Debating an issue fairly expects both sides to listen to eachother and respond accordingly,however you just said it. If YOU don't care about it, it doesn't matter. Therefore all along you're only concerned about your side of the debate. Not what is a fact or not. You know,i'd like to talk to you personally to see what motivates you. Advantages are not only about competition,they are about fair game.
 
Therefore all along you're only concerned about your side of the debate. Not what is a fact or not.
Not true at all, however, Unless hunters are competing with other hunters (and I certainly hope that's not the case)......then it's moot point (at best IMO)

ou know,i'd like to talk to you personally to see what motivates you.
I've already explained that to You......IF you don't believe it that's fine....you're entitled to that view.

Advantages are not only about competition,they are about fair game.

First "I HOPE" you mean "unfair advantages" and those are subjective at best and "dangerous" at worst to our sport.....IMO

"I" am one who does not intend to "judge" fellow hunters, IF what they're doing IS legal, and what they wish to do ,while NOT harming our sport or it's image "I" will support them..... including the use of crossBOWS as their choice of Bow....simple as that...

"I" realize WE all have enough REAL Enemies to not need to manufacture them from within.....
 
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