quote]I would agree . That the council does not hear us single hunters at all!!!!! [/quote]
Exactly
if the clubs like UBNJ,TU,Federation, etc etc took on the same issues equally we would see more action.
First off UBNJ, TU,DU etc are MEMBER Organisations NOT CLUBS often times they represent thousands of people with similar goals and desires yet within the FEDERATION they are but little more than 1 group no better than a CLUB that does nothing but push deer for them selves on public property or hold a lease.
More often than not these same groups are focused ONLY on getting THEIR moenys worth F- the resource F- the other users of that PUBLIC RESOURCE a member GROUP like the UBNJ or QDM stands little chance of making a positive change.
Some more examples other than the fact that BOW HUNTERS WILL HAVE NO SAY IN WEATHER OR NOT CROSSBOWS GET DUMPED IN THEIR SEASON
How about Ruffed Grouse Why isn't the Div. of F+W NOT doing anything to manage these game birds?
They control over 300,000 ac. of land much of it potentialy prime grouse habitat yet it is allowed to fester WHY? Yet the Ruffed Grouse scocciety is a member group with realy NO VOICE.
THEY DON'T SHOW UP TO MEETINGS is the constant cry of the Federation defendors those entrenched in the system who also by virtue of how THEY HUNT benifit from the actions of the F+G council and its dancing to the Federations tired old tune show up to a meeting make a request and that request made by a MEMBER ORG. with HUNDREDS OF LOCAL MEMBERS gets shot down by 3 clubs with a few dozen members WHAT IS THE POINT?
The Council is NOT the problem.
That depends upon ones point of view to be sure.
While it can't be denied that since the Campbell/McGreevey years and the limiting of the councils power (Which was done in part as much because they managed a public resourse with ONLY the perseptions and wants of ONE segment of the populations desires in mind)THEY ARE THE VERY PROBLEM in essence since they are controlled in FACT and IN DEED by a group (THE FEDERATION) that is controlled by only a portion of its membership.
If a change should be made it should be a change to the Federation by getting different interest groups to show up!
Ahh my point exactly and the best way to do that is to make THEIR voice heard and to COUNT it is an ugly shame when one or two county federation chapters can deside we will have no Sunday Bowhunting or that Crossbows will get placed in bowseason not to mention a host of other inequities.
Question WHO on todays council represents ColdWater Fisheries?
WHY won't QDM EVER be a REAL goal of Deer management in this state?
The answers are right there the fact that there is NO POINT in showing up if your interst is NOT DRIVING DEER and or SHOOTING PEN RAISED BIRDS going to meetings to listen to HOURS of Belly acheing from the OLD GAURD than getting lip service from them when a MEMBER group makes a request why bother.
I don't think anyone has the "right" to control the Council.
Ahh but that is exactly the way it is now with no volentary change insite.
I think that ALL hunters should be treated EQUALLY AND FAIRLY with WILDLIFE CONSERVATION being the most important factor, not money.
Its not just hunters but ALL the resource users and the resource its self there are more than just hunters who are members of the federation and more than just hunters who SHOULD BE members BUT what is the point if it gets you no place?
One of the ugly FACTS of modern life is IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO MONEY the questions here are how is that money collected and from whom / by whom and how does it get spent?
Does anyone else care to answer the original question?