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hello, my name is brian and i;m new to this site. i joined after seeing my father who goes by the name of wink man. i just wanted to say hello to everyone.

now i have heard alot about piebald and albino deer. ive read and heard how rare they are. now from this they can only be born from a deer with the genes of a deer with the attribute of a pibald or albino, but there are no garrentees that one will be born. so for my question has anyone that hunts new jersey, have you seen ne deers of these sorts. from me i have seen 5 pibalds in total and no albino ever. 3 of which were in new jersey. 1 in new york, and one in penn. has ne one else have any unique encounters with these types of deer.

pleas tell me, im really curious
 
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Welcome lost! I have taken 2 piebalds..A 4pt here in NJ and a doe in Maine. See my photo gallery. They are uncommon. Where you see one you may see another.I have seen 6 or 7 piebalds and only 1 true albino. This was in Maine about 2 miles from where I harvested the piebald doe.
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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALBINOS/PIEBALDS..

Albinism is due to a lack of a specific pigment, (melanin) who's production is usually controlled by the pituary gland. A true albino will have all-white hair,grayish hoofs, and pink eyes.

The deer that hunters refer to as "piebald", are not true Albino's. In fact, the unique coloring of these deer is actually due to a genetic mutation. In many cases these deer suffer from other anatomical problems, in particular very poor hearing.

These deer may have patches of white, patches of "normal" coloration, frosted coats of silver or white mixed within the normal coat, freckles, spots and patches. Some piebalds are marked equally on both sides, others are very random. Some are all white, all have normal colored eyes, nose pads and/or hooves. In some cases the pieds will show other recessive abnormalities like sloped muzzle, bowed or short front legs, and palmated antlers, but others are completely normal with large antlers.


Due to these various traits the genetic disorder is not very common. Piebald deer are in general much easy to harvest by predators and hunters due to their inabilty to blend with natural cover and their other anatomical deformations.

One other relatively uncommon occurence is the naturally occuring white deer. These deer also are no albinos. The gene that results in all white deer is normally a recessive gene in most populations and therefore non albino all-white deer are not a very common occurence.

One notable exception to this rule exist in a population of deer that have been allowed to reproduce in relative seclusion on NY's Senaca Army depot. In this population the gene that results in all white deer is actually expressed as the dominant gene within the population.

Hope this clears things up a little
 
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About 25 years ago we had 5 or 6 of the piebald running around an area in Mendham. 3 different bucks and a couple 3 does. We were never sure if we had 2 or 3 different does. They were all located within about 2 sq miles. A friend of mine shot the 6 pt buck. Another smaller buck was taken by another hunter from the area at that time. Never knew what happened to the bigger buck or any of the does. They just seemed to disappear over time.
I saw all of these deer at one time or another. Mostly when working midnights back then.[up]

I also saw 1 piebald in Pa when hunting. It was a doe and we had no doe tags.[down]
 
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for u guys that hunt up in the sussex area thats where i have seen 2 of the pibalds one with my father in a field and one around the property down the road where i used to live the other one in new jersey was in sparta behind my aunts house
 
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Hey Markmartinfan,are the legs on that deer stubby,they look like it in the pic.
 
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