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Sorry for posting so many times on this thread, but this question really bothered me. I'm not going to use the words, in my opinion or ethical. Shooting a bird from a tree is simply killing, not hunting. What is the next step, setting up your duck blind at a county parks pond with bread crumbs along side the blind.
 
Shooting a bird from a tree is simply killing, not hunting
I hate to tell you but hunting is killing [confused]. I have family in southern Italy that to this day is very poor and rely on hunting/killing for food. Wonder if they ever shot a bird on a tree [confused].

What is the next step, setting up your duck blind at a county parks pond with bread crumbs along side the blind.
So youre saying anyone that baits for deer is simply killing and not hunting [confused]

youre funny:D :D :D
 
I used to hunt with a dog and a monkey. I used the monkey for tree birds and when he wasn't climbing trees flushing birds he would ride on the dogs back. Got him a little cowboy hat and boots, it was really quite cute. The dog eventually killed the monkey because he kept spurring him. It was fun while it lasted.
 
Before i had my dogs i would. But with the dogs there is no need, like others have said, let the dogs work because that's what they are there for and they love to do it.

I have not hunted state land this year and last year only twice. But if i have been hunting for a few hours and i have not seen anything and i came across a bird in a tree, i would try and make it fly so i can get a shot at it. The dogs may not have found it, but they would sure as hell would love to retrieve it!
 
I am not going to address the shooting in the tree. Who the hell shots one on the ground with hunters and dogs around. That is so damn stupid. If my dog our kid gets shot I hope they throw the book at the idiot after I get done tearing him a new a##hole in the field. A damn bird is worth scarring someone for life.
 
I had a chance to shoot a PA grouse out of a tree last week, and didn't do that, so I'm not going to do it with some State-released chicken. My buddy had to throw a stick at the grouse to get him to flush...then I shot him!

Unethical, and unfair to the dogs, to shoot them out of a tree or on the ground. Now, if we were subsistence hunters, it'd be a different story -- no such thing as "sporting" if your kids are hungry!
 
I think bloodtrails sees the big picture.
 
ive shot a couple from trees but dont really go much I dont use a dog so If im really in the mood for pheasant fingers lol thats what i make with them ill shoot one in a tree. But there is no sport in it I agree taking them on the wing is a lot better. Once my grandfather andd uncle were hunting flatbrook and some idiot decided to shoot at a low flying bird and my uncle had pellets lodged into his skin and was bleeding pretty bad then they shot the bird again and it fell my grandfather walked up to hte bird stuck the barrel up to it fired the gun picked up the bird and said heres your ....... bird People are unreal its a bird think before you shoot since then i dont really gget to go out much I like bowhunting better anyways =)lol.
 
Now, if we were subsistence hunters, it'd be a different story -
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But we're not talking sustenance here are we? We're talking about fair chase, not whether dinner is on the table. Let's get real, don't give me that crap about hunting is killing or needing food. All you who say it's ok because your family needs the food try this; sell your gun, your shells, your gear, your dog, save the $60.50 in licenses, cancel your internet account, get off the computer and get a job (or a second one)!! If you're that poor, you'd be better off making money to support your family instead of wasting it on non-necessities. The season is only about 60 days long. If you spent the 2 hrs. a day you hunt working at minimum wage, you would earn $858. Take 1/3 of that ($286), go to Costco and get chicken breast at $1.99 a pound. That will buy your family 143 pounds of chicken for 60 days. 2.3 pounds of chicken a day is more than enough to feed my family of four. Oh yes, and you'll have $572 in the kitty, plus the money from selling all your crap!

"Fair Chase" (ie hunter's ethics) is a personal code of conduct hunters impose above and beyond the law. The idea came about because of conservation efforts started by hunters who recognized declining game populations. The fair chase rules say to give "an appropriate and reasonable chance for game to escape". It's a hunt, not just a shoot. At one time, if there was crusty snow on the ground, you did not hunt deer because the deer would struggle in the snow and it would be an easy kill. You can't shoot into a squirrel's nest-presumably because we don't want dead squirrels to be left there. But what if you could get it out of the nest? Would that make it any more ethical?

But slobs hide behind the legal definition of hunting which is the "taking of game"; "taking" further defined as "means of pursuing, shooting, hunting, fishing, trapping, killing, capturing, snaring or netting wildlife or the placing or using of any net or other device or trap in a manner that may result in the capturing or killing of wildlife.” Hell, by this definition, we should just go to Pequest or Rockport, hand over our license fees and "take" what we're "entitled" to under the game limits. That wouldn't be sporting would it? The point being just because you can doesn't make it right.

I'd rather hear that game populations are coming back rather than how some guy limited out before his car door closed! Yeah, great, you can shoot a bird on the ground or in a tree. My six year old can hit 'em with a rock too, but that doesn't make him a hunter!(Well, I guess by the legal definition it does[eyeroll])

Phew! Glad to get that off my chest! Thanks for your patience[kiss]
 
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