Guys not to get into it with anyone, but several factors are not being presented here!
1. Most of the guys who are complaining about never getting a FID card for a management hunt are complaining because they CAN'T get one! They did something besides a "little mistake" that they cannot get expunged. What they're not telling you is the truth, why they can't get an FID card.
2. If you knew the truth why they can't get an FID card you would know that they are not legally allowed to carry ANY type of weapon PERIOD! That's right if you've been turned down by the police for an FID card because of a so called "little mistake", you'll find that they are not allowed to possess a bow, a knife,a Samuri Sword, nothing!!!! This is why they don't want to get a card because they'll find out that they are hunting illegally, possessing a weapon they're not supposed to have!
3. A FID card weeds out these "little mistake" makers that shouldn't have a bow in their hands in the first place! That bowhunt because they can't purchase a gun, they're flying under the radar! This is our way of catching them, we pride ourselves on using the best of the best citizens/bowhunters,
4. We try to limit the amount of gun hunting we do, we talk to entities about just using bowhunting, but sometimes other outside influences convince the host to use guns to quickly trim the herds. We succumb to these pressures, because if we don't do it someone else will! In the hopes that we can convince and we usually do the host to maintain with bowhunting only. It's a bitter pill we swallow, in order to show bowhunting can and will do the job.
5. I'm sure the "little mistake" makers don't want everyone to know the truth, so they'll stir the pot a little bit, unfortunately this isn't the forum to do it, we have a Central & Southern Region Meeting coming up, do it there in front of other people, do it in public where we can see your face and you can see ours, not hiding behind a computer monitor, or are you afraid we'll find out about your "little mistake"????
6. Criticism is fine, it's a tool to help you grow, to learn from your mistakes, Criticism is fine as long as it's not malicious. We are volunteers, we work long and hard for the bowhunters of this state, we're not perfect and we may makes some mistakes or you may not agree with everything we do, but always look at the big picture, we're here to protect your right to bowhunt, first and foremost, NOTHING ELSE! Everything else is just a perk for you! the ability to hunt UBNJ Management hunts is a privilage, and it's not for everyone, some people are not cut out for management hunts, they cannot follow rules, they don't want to be told they can't shoot a buck before they shoot 2 does, they can't follow instructions or fail to give us the proper credentials!
7. On the applications we asked for the SS# and many people refused to give it to us, they were worried about Identity Theft, which means we couldn't do a background check on them, Again I ask were they worried about Itentity Theft or someone finding out about their "little mistake".
8. The FID card has become a requirement of the host and our insurance company.
9. Give me a brake, thats what insurance is for, This is the most irresponsible quote in the whole thread, what are you saying let's let some lawbreakers into our hunt and if they shoot up a house don't worry we 've got insurance! Do you tell your kid, don't worry boy, you can have a few beers and drive as fast as you want, we've got insurance!
That's a load of crap!
10. Listen, members who really want to have a dialogue on this can call me we'll talk man to man, "little mistake" makers, if you can't get an FID because you can't get one, I certainly don't want you in one of our hunts, and if that's the only reason you joined UBNJ, I don't want you in our organization either!