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I think he means that the energy that was still in the arrow at that distance blew him away.
Yes, I agree on that. I also remember Tom made a robin hood after I shot it. Glad I didn't do it. [ko]
 
So let see now, - if I am following this tread right ???

It started with the NYB report & the statement in that report that said, "in part" that - "The crossbow, has an average effective range of 69 yards"

This of course is an effort to discredit the crossbow as a superior weapon over that of conventional bows (including compound bows) in that it (xbow) has a greater effective shooting range. --- At least that is what the NYB article wants the "average unaware" person to believe. !!!

However, - this simply IS NOT true. Why ???

As anyone that IS AWARE (& the NYB people that wrote this article, are most certainly aware) advances in the technology of TODAYS compound bows, - are in fact making compound bows, capable of effective shooting ranges out to 70 - 100 yards, - & that includes effective for shooting & taking game at those ranges, - NOT just hitting "targets" at those ranges.

Pick up ANY archery related mag. & you well read about the latest & greatest in compound bow technology advancement giving the compound bow more let off, more speed, more kinetic energy & more range.

Pick up any archery related mag. & there is a GOOD chance that you are going read an article (like the one I posted yesterday) written by some compound bow hunter, - that lives out on the open prairie, shooting & taking game out to 70 plus yards, with their compound bows.

And what is it all about ??? --- Its about compound bow manufactures, - SELLING the latest & greatest in their technology advancement !!! --- As well as some really dedicated archers BRAGGING about what they can do with the latest & greatest in compound bow technology advancement. (& there is certainly nothing wrong with that)

However, - what is wrong, - is when vertical archers &/or the manufactures of vertical equipment, try to discredit the crossbow, because of technology advancement in the manufacture of crossbows, that allow the crossbow hunter to shoot & take game at these SAME KIND of ranges.

If vertical archers &/or manufactures are going to whine & complane about the effective long distance range capabilities of "SOME" crossbows, - then they need to quite working on & promoting technology advancement that gives their compound bows these same capabilities.

Another words, - what SOME crossbows & crossbow hunters are capable of, - is TOTALLY irrelevant, - when IN FACT, - SOME compound bows & compound bow hunters are capable of EXACTLY the same thing.

OR, - How about this, - make a LAW, - that says, - YOU, - can't hunt with a bow that is capable of effectively taking game at a range greater then 45 yards, - including compound bows!!!!!

I can already hear the compound hunters & manufactures. [cry][cry][cry][cry][cry][cry][cry]

Kurt
 
If the above statments from the NYS Post are correct, then why does the Hunter Safety Manual for Crossbows (endorsed by the NATIONAL BOW HUNTER EDUCATION FOUNDATION) state:
"You must develop the stealth to move within 30-40 yards of your quarry, THE CROSSBOWS MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE RANGE"
Is it because "THEY", the NEBF, have found that the effective range of a Crossbow is 30-40yds. Which as you well know is also recognized as the effective range of VERTICAL Bows.
Here it is in BLACK & WHITE.

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Kurt, all I'm saying is that crossbows ARE easier.
That's all I've ever been saying, yet the pro crossbow side wants to debate this when it doesn't fit their agenda.. Why you guys have to debate that is beyond me. You guys say it will bring in more "archers" because it's easier but then you say it's not easier when someone on the anti side brings it up.
You, me and little John from the corner store can pick up a scoped crossbow today and in 15 minutes be shooting 60 yds. Everybody who picks up a scoped crossbow can shoot 60 yds. Not every compound shooter can shoot 60 yds. Why? Cause crossbows are easier.
 
Oh, & by the way, I wrote ----

OR, - How about this, - make a LAW, - that says, - YOU, - can't hunt with a bow that is capable of effectively taking game at a range greater then 45 yards, - including compound bows!!!!!
This would still allow me to hunt with my 150# Horton, because at 45 yards I have lost the energy for a good clean pass threw. In fact due to energy loss, I WILL NOT chance a shot beyond 35 yards. Tried it "once" - NEVER again, - still feel bad, - deer running with arrow sticking out of it, - never found, - still feel bad, - NEVER agian!!!!

Kurt
 
super x

There is NO question about it, learning to shoot a xbow is easyer the conventional bow (& i don't believe the pro Xbow side has ever said &/or argued different)

HUNTING with xbow is what is not any easyer.

There is a BIG difference between shooting at targets & HUNTING.

Kurt
 
There is a BIG difference between shooting at targets & HUNTING.
Excellent point, Kurt! Even "I" know this.:D Am sure would be the same for "any" weapon.
 
super x

There is NO question about it, learning to shoot a xbow is easyer the conventional bow (& i don't believe the pro Xbow side has ever said &/or argued different)

HUNTING with xbow is what is not any easyer.

There is a BIG difference between shooting at targets & HUNTING.
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EXACTLY!!!

He's been told this numerous times YET he still insists on posting bogus BS!

NO one has (that I recall at least has EVER said) that shooting a crossbow once "ready" isn't easier, HUNTING is still getting within range as ALL other archery and crossbows do not, will not and have never done that for anyone that I'm aware of......

You have to understand that super-x has stated he WILL kill 20 doe with his crossbow "because he can"....which tells you what type of "sportsman" we're dealing with here.....
 
yup a guy that wants the control the herd the easy way[up] it pure science[hihi]
 
You have to understand that super-x has stated he WILL kill 20 doe with his crossbow "because he can"....which tells you what type of "sportsman" we're dealing with here.....
And why did I say I would do this?? Cause you said it wasn't easier with a crossbow, that there was no PROOF of it. So I told you that I would give you your PROOF.
 
And an 85% letoff compound is easier than a stickbow! What's the point! You still have to hunt! You still have to scout & put yourself into position to harvest a deer! It's still called hunting reguardless of your weapon of choice![wallmad]
 
You still have to hunt! You still have to scout & put yourself into position to harvest a deer!

no you dont just go to a field on your property no matter where the deer come out and launch a bolt[drinking]
 
no you dont just go to a field on your property no matter where the deer come out and launch a bolt
[rofl]
Guess that bolt is like radar[confused][confusedagain]
 
Kurt, all I'm saying is that crossbows ARE easier.
That's all I've ever been saying, yet the pro crossbow side wants to debate this when it doesn't fit their agenda.. Why you guys have to debate that is beyond me. You guys say it will bring in more "archers" because it's easier but then you say it's not easier when someone on the anti side brings it up.
You, me and little John from the corner store can pick up a scoped crossbow today and in 15 minutes be shooting 60 yds. Everybody who picks up a scoped crossbow can shoot 60 yds. Not every compound shooter can shoot 60 yds. Why? Cause crossbows are easier.
Perfectly said......cant wait to see ace spin this one. ace, u r going to need a kenmore to get this one done
 
yup a guy that wants the control the herd the easy way
Archery is NOT NEEDED to control the herds PERIOD.....a FEW more gun days COULD easily do that......

Bow seasons ARE totally 100% about opportunity......PERIOD.......NOW they'll be about MORE opportunity for MORE HUNTERS :D
 
cant wait to see ace spin this one.
You really are NOT "too bright" are you???

THE WHOLE time YOUR side has done ALL the "spinning" spreading downright FALSE information and you have the audacity to even THINK you are making :"some silly point"........

[rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl]
 
And why did I say I would do this??
IIRC

YOUR EXACT WORDS WERE:

"Because I can"......[down]

Also "I" STILL have a thread that "I" started and it's called EASIER...........FWIW :D


FACT:

There once was a guy from VA (still there BTW) who said the EXACT SAME THING you are claiming he could NOT do it!!! (even with ALL the Deer VA has!!)

He found out just how foolish he was for THINKING that crossbows ARE so much "easier" to hunt with......a crossbow..... he discovered VERY quickly is just like ANY/ALL other bows......period!!!

He WAS man enough though to come out in public and admit it......I wonder IF you'll do the same thing....[confused]

He discovered while it's EASY to spout things of (BS) on the internet, doing them is quite another thing (His SN is BigBird VA FWIW) :D

He is NOW PRO crossbow inclusion because REALITY has convinced him myself and the rest were not spewing anything, spinning anything.......

FACTS will ALWAYS "win out" over BS!
 
It's called ENERGY...

** Note - The Block target he was shooting at was 2 years old. I have no problem putting arrows through the "center" with my Mathews at 30yds. It has been shot extensively

[rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl]
 
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