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I see guys doing this every year! When I told 2 of my hunting buddies I confirmed zero on my slug gun last weekend the response was similar:
"why didn't you tell me I would have had you sight in mine"
First off F you why should I be doing t hat while you were quail hunting?
second, don't you think it would be a good idea to shoot the gun yourself?

Sight in your gun well before the season

November 4, 2014 by Steve Pollick Blog


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Guys – and gals – check-sight your rifle or slug gun before gun-deer season. No excuses.

I just finished another weekend as rangemaster at my shooting club’s annual charity sight-in days, which benefit a local food pantry. What I witnessed decidedly was a mixed bag from visiting shooters.

One shooter, complaining that he has been unable to hit any rabbits with his scope-equipped .22 rifle – a model well-known for better than average accuracy – proceeded to try and check-sight his rifle in unsupported standing position in front of at the 25-yard bench. I politely urged him to take a bench rest – we had oodles of sandbags, rests, and other steadying aids at hand.

The man said that his old knees wouldn’t let him scrunch down on a low bench seat. So we got him a chair from the clubhouse, while I, with his permission, reset the zero on his rifle by firing a few rounds and tweaking the scope adjustments. The shooter proceeded to lay round after round right where they should be – something he never would have known had he just waved around in unsupported standing position. The guy went home happy, with visions of rabbit stew in his head.

A threesome of shooters showed solid knowledge of having hunted and having checked-sighted before. I agreed to let them set up right at the 50-yard targets to start. The first guy was able to keep his shots in the black with a red-dot scope on his 12-gauge slug gun, this after a couple tweaks to the adjustments. His groups were not particularly tight, but probably good enough for slug-gun deer at 50 to 75 yards.

Another of the guys, shooting a 7mm Remington Magnum for long-range West Virginia hill country hunting, proceed to fire a nice tight 10-ring triangle at 50 yards; then he switched to zeroing his Ohio 12-gauge, scope-equipped slug gun. It took him a few rounds, but he finally nailed a nice group of nearly touching hits well inside the black.

His other high-power partner, shooting a bolt-action .30/06, pounded about a dozen shots mostly into the black, but his group was too low and, to me, uncomfortably dispersed for a well-known, accurate model with a fine scope. Yet he never adjusted his optics to at least zero a tight group at 50 yards. He thought what he did was good enough. Well, OK. Up to you.

Neither of the high-power boys bothered to see where his rifle was printing rounds at 100 or 200 yards ranges, as they readily could have done on our range. Note: A 50-yard zero is just a starting point for a rifle, a telltale as to where you will be close at longer range. It maybe not killing-shot close, unless you check and verify and tweak at longer ranges, from a solid bench rest.

Another shooter could not even touch the paper with his new scope-equipped 12-gauge slug gun, a reliable model. After about 8 rounds without even touching the target paper, let along the bull, I came over and asked if I could check his scope mounts. Finger-loose screws on the mounting base, and loose rings as well. It is a wonder the scope did not fall off during the heavy recoil of repeated slugs. I opened my tool box, found a big screwdriver and appropriate Allen wrench and we squared the crosshairs and tightened up the scope and mounts. But the guy had run out of ammo. He said something about using his other gun on opening day. OK, it’s your hunt.

The foregoing scenarios really happened, and they are typical. Folks, we just do not do a good enough job of sighting in, if we bother at all! Standing on your hind legs at camp on Sunday afternoon before opening morning and cutting loose with a couple slugs at 10 yards at a pie plate is next to useless. No, it’s worse than useless. It is a pathetic excuse. It is unethical.

We supposedly hunt to kill, not maim or wound. Or at least we slap ourselves endlessly on the back claiming so to the non-hunting public. Put your capability where your sentiments lie. Check-sight that rifle or slug-gun, and do it right! That is why our club, for one, offers its range and trained members every year. But you have to take the next step and do it, not pretend.
 
LOL if someone wanted me to sight in their gun like that, I would say sure. Take the gun home, and turn the scope around in the rings, then bag it back up, return it and say should be good to go. [hihi]
 
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Winchester12, same guy I saw shoot a paper plate in Rockaway the day before bear opener. About a 15 yard shot and barely hit the plate. Missed a nice buck at 20 yards the next day cant imagine how??
Really nice guy but man I don't know what some people think. My luck would be the scope is off on my slug gun as the 12 pointer walks past laughing at me
 
Too many people pick up their gun once a year, rattle a round down the barrel, if it hits somewhere close to their aiming point it's good enough.

I help kids hunt, before I take them to the stand or blind I want to see them shoot. We can tweak them from there.
 
I work in a sporting goods store at the gun counter and hear things like this all the time. When selling scoped rifles I'm often asked if it's sighted in and ready to go from the factory. I have people coming to the store the Saturday before 6 day looking for slugs because they are all out. Once I was getting a set of broadheads for a fellow and he told me he was crossbow hunting for whitetail and had a question, "Which line on the scope do I put on the deer?" He said he keeps missing deer that he thinks something is wrong with the crossbow. I explained to him you need to sight in the crossbow and the first line is usually sighted in at twenty yards then you determine the other ranges by walkbacks. He said a friend of his sighted it in for him so what line should he use? I told him again you need to know what it was sighted in at and have to know the distance of the deer from your stand. His reply was what do you mean? I explained to him about knowing your distance to target and he asked how you did that. I ended up showing him a few rangefinders which he didn't buy. He did buy the mechanical broadheads though. True story.
 
My buddy bought a muzzleloader from Cabelas we went to the range to sight both our guns in, he was having problems sighting his in so when I was done he ask me to give him a hand. He handed me the gun and I noticed they mounted the scope 45 degrees out of rotation so left/right was up/down and up/down was left/right adjustment. I rotated the scope and within minutes we had it shooting good. Just goes to show you cant even trust the "experts" to set your gun up[up] lol
 
I've seen that done before, and can't beleive people actually don't notice.

I had a guy tell me his crossbows (yes mulitiples) were messed up, could I look at them. I told him to meet me at the range. set him up at 20 yards he shot under the target. I cranked it up till he was where he needed to be. He thought I was great, got the other crossbow out, and the scope was on backwards. Turned it around, shot it in. He bought the second crossbow because the first one didn't shoot right, and even changed scopes trying to get it on.

And we let them roam the woods armed.
 
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I try to work in shots the that may occur when hunting sitting w/sticks, kneeling and tree supported, free standing is the toughest, many different muscles come into play.
Tree supported 100 yards vs. a fully supported bench indoors vs. unsupported free standing with a top heavy muzzy shots in the woods.

Confidence is king however, and accurate bench practice develops plenty.
 
I spent 2 hours today at the Clinton WMA range shooting the muzzleloader. Just another guy, shooting a .22, and myself the whole time.

Several years back I was shooting at Clinton on Wednesday of 6 day like today and a little 4 ptr walked across the top of the berm. Just stopped and looked at us while we were shooting.
 
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