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Being facetious is fine. But with that logic why hunt different species of game? A duck is a duck, a deer is a deer, why bother hunting or fishing at all. Just buy food at the store and be done with it...I see your point. No more fishing or hunting for me, I'll just order some game meat online and buy my fish from shoprite.
you just made about as much sense as a poopie flavored lollipop
 
The Asbury hatchery i think breeds all 3 plus goldens, Some of which are public stocked along with state raised trout, And i might add some real Lunker Trout, Funny how things change but when i became eligible for a free Licence and Stamp i go less, to busy with Surf Striped Bass
or just some how lost some interest in it,
 
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The point is its still just a pen raised fish. Some deer are bigger and smarter some ducks more rare and challenging. The difference between a stocked brown and stocked rainbow? Slight coloration? I understand why people chase different species of wild trout, different locations and tactics that kind of thing. The power bait that you throw to a stocked brookie will just as likely be swallowed by a stocked rainbow. Just depends what the truck puts there. Back when I fished I fished for stocked trout. I'm not that uppity just can't comprehend how someone can say they won't fish for stocked trout because there is only one color of fish dropped off that morning
The state says that rainbows are easier to catch and are more aggressive and disease tolerant in this case so their objective is to have fish being caught. Browns are more challenging to catch regardless if they were pen raised or not. I like a challenge as much as anyone and since we have very little wild trout in NJ the browns do add a little more challenge. Lots of hunters and anglers want a challenge when they hunt and fish. Some guys hunt with recurves without bait. Some guys only hunt by stalking or flyfish only. I'm not condemning those who want to limit out or are brown and down guys. I just want the best experience i can get when i rarely get out and since I can't always go to the salmon river or montana to hunt or fish I seek the best challenge i can. Browns provide more challenge for me.
 
Have you e-mail the state fish and game about your concerns? Have you attended a meeting with the state fish and game? There was a meeting on February 2, 2016 regarding stocking trout for the 2016 trout stocking season, did you attend? The meeting is listed on the state's website.

Ask yourself, how can I be part of the solution?
 
Have you e-mail the state fish and game about your concerns? Have you attended a meeting with the state fish and game? There was a meeting on February 2, 2016 regarding stocking trout for the 2016 trout stocking season, did you attend? The meeting is listed on the state's website.

Ask yourself, how can I be part of the solution?
Thank You. but The Pundits rather blast opinions at others and stay ignorant of the answers they would get if they made any attempt to get involved or make the call. For some reason most would rather :prod: then contribute,
 
Thank You. but The Pundits rather blast opinions at others and stay ignorant of the answers they would get if they made any attempt to get involved or make the call. For some reason most would rather :prod: then contribute,
What you are saying is that no person's opinion here matters unless they attempt to jam themselves into the trout meeting room. Or there is the always the option of having your (unpopular to the state open comment period comment) opinions filed into the circular file before they even make it to consideration.

What you get here on newjerseyhunter.com are mostly unfiltered opinions. I like my cigarettes unfiltered too.

I have seen the answers. No more snagging of fish. Eagle nests preventing boat launching. All "diseased" fish to be destroyed instead of put where people want them. Closed seasons and jumbled regulations. Nongame turtles featured in the fishing digest. Stock the river monsters in the same places as trout stocking, etc. Is there really any chance of reversing this stuff?
 
What you are saying is that no person's opinion here matters unless they attempt to jam themselves into the trout meeting room. Or there is the always the option of having your (unpopular to the state open comment period comment) opinions filed into the circular file before they even make it to consideration.

What you get here on newjerseyhunter.com are mostly unfiltered opinions. I like my cigarettes unfiltered too.

I have seen the answers. No more snagging of fish. Eagle nests preventing boat launching. All "diseased" fish to be destroyed instead of put where people want them. Closed seasons and jumbled regulations. Nongame turtles featured in the fishing digest. Stock the river monsters in the same places as trout stocking, etc. Is there really any chance of reversing this stuff?[/QUO

Opinions do matter and involvement also matters. to Talk about it is good But it is just that Talk. How do you think laws are made, surely not buy just talking and opinionating , One example NJ Saltwater Licence why do we not have one and most every other state has one, It was not the ones voicing opinions and giving up, It was the letters, people attending meetings, Sadly it follows a trend on this site of opinions all Talk Bashing and taking any opportunity to interject a stupid remark.
 
Well it seems the outbreak of Furunculosis at Pequest has not been eradicated. There have been no updates on the website as to the effectiveness of the biosecurity measures implemented to eradicate the disease not just control it and thats why only rainbows are being stocked again not because they are easier to catch. I'm sure those who trout fish know about the saga going on since the fall of 13'. They have cancelled brook and brown trout production since 13 and there are no plans to restart it. This disease apparently is still very much present in the raceways and that is why they have stopped all brook and brown trout production. For those who like bows' and only bows' you will have all you can handle as they are resistant to the disease, but apparently what they are doing is not working or they would be producing browns and brooks like they have for the past 30 years. Other states like NY and PA have hatcheries that apparently have figured out how to control the disease because they are still producing all three species in abundance.

Unless the state indicates they will restart brown and brook trout stocking this will be the last year a lot of fisherman will be buying licenses and stamps, including me. I'll fish PA.

Several things wrong with your rant. Funny how some assume your facts are all correct :)

There are plans to reintroduce brown trout. But they will not begin until the roofs with the solar panels are over the raceways so they can keep birds out and then ensure the entire system is free of furunculosis. They have had good success sterilizing the raceways, but there are still birds of prey getting in and until that can be stopped, there is no sense taking a chance at new brown trout stock. Brook trout being our only native trout (a char, actually), the Division may never raise them again but rather increase protections for wild brookies. I suggest strongly everyone interested in wild trout take the Division's wild trout survey to learn more about the biologists' concerns for our wild fish:

NJDEP Division of Fish & Wildlife - Take the Wild Trout Survey

That said, brown eggs will not come in for at least 3 more years. When they do, they have to come from a hatchery either without furunculosis or one where the brown trout are exposed like our rainbows have been here, but which do not break out in disease - again, like our rainbows in NJ.

When you say, "other states like NY and PA have hatcheries that apparently have figured out how to control the disease...." you would be wrong again. They have furunculosis in nearly 100% of their hatchery systems, but they just stock the diseased fish or have disease resistant strains, again, like our current rainbow stocks. You as an angler have to decide for yourself if you want a disease free hatchery or if you're OK with the state raising fish carrying diseases (furunculosis is just one of many that trout and other fish can succumb to including IPN and others). Once the bid goes out for the roofs over the raceways and the solar panels are applied on those roofs, the Division can begin to stop worrying about birds of prey. Then they can start bringing in brown trout eggs, raising the fish, seeing how they do, and then eventually stocking them into the rivers again. But that is 5-7 years away right now.
 
Several things wrong with your rant. Funny how some assume your facts are all correct :)

You start with a Quote that was uncalled for and interject the same thing, This is how a great post goes viral. I will assume your facts along with his are factual till proven otherwise Sorry for The :rant:
Thank you for teaching me about the internet [lol]
 
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