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I'm not impressed but I am disappointed to see such a beautiful fish killed. Blue Marlin are on the decline and efforts are being made by the Billfish Foundation and the International Game Fish Association (both of which I belong) to prevent unnecessary killing of these beautiful fish. Most fishing tournaments are now catch and release with non-offset circle hooks being required to prevent damage to the released fish.
 
#3 ·
Mate Mike,
Well said and thank you for saying it.

I am against killing any and all billfish.
 
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Ok first some questions.

1 Is it leagal to kill a Blue Marlin?
2 Do you eat a Blue Marlin?

And now let me play the part of the Devil

3 How is the following quote, "I am disappointed to see such a beautiful fish killed" any different than Stu or Linda saying How could you kill such a beautiful Bear.
 
#8 ·
OK you have a point there so how is this .

Since so many billfish are kiled as bicatch while longline fishing for Swardfish and while fishing in other ways for other species and they are such a teriffic sport fish who's numbers are on the decline I feel it is the responcability of all sportsmen to release all billfish they catch since they are such great fish they should not be cought only once.

(Side Note)

Yeah had smoked Marlin 30 years ago while knocking around Jamaca and I couldnt eat enough of it. Now I don't think I would take even one bite since I do not want to support their harvest legal or not.
 
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Is it leagal to kill a Blue Marlin?
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Yes.
Do you eat a Blue Marlin
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I don't and most people I know don't (the meat is very bloody) but in second world countries they do.
How is the following quote, "I am disappointed to see such a beautiful fish killed" any different than Stu or Linda saying How could you kill such a beautiful Bear
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Bear are not on the decline and the taking of them is regulated, Blue Marlin are on the decline and there is no regulations.
 
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Ok Mike Mate that is a much better way of putting it. When you say "I am disappointed to see such a beautiful fish killed" you sound just like the anti's who think pretty animals should be saved because they are pretty it has nothing to do with sound game management or what is best for wildlife overall. Now when you say "Blue Marlin are on the decline and there is no regulations" that is ok with me as long you would approve of the management of the Marlin with regulations that would include the taking of some of the animals at some point in time.
 
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management of the Marlin with regulations
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That will never happen because too many countries are involved to agree.

taking of some of the animals at some point in time
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Why? You can't eat them and trophy mounts are made from fibergl [no swearing please] (you don't need the fish).
 
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Why? You can't eat them and trophy mounts are made from fibergl [no swearing please] (you don't need the fish).
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The reason why is because if you dont you would eliminate spear fishing, no catch and release there. I for one would not like to have bow hunting taken away from me. This is the only one he has ever shot and said he would probably never have a chance at another.

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management of the Marlin with regulations
That will never happen because too many countries are involved to agree.
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Just like quality deer management you have to start some where.
 
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you would eliminate spear fishing
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Why would a an entire sport be eliminated because one species is not killed? In the state of Florida the Key Deer and the Panther are protected but it has not eliminated the sport of bow hunting.

you have to start some where
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That is exactly why those of us that realize Bill Fish in general and Blue Marlin specially are on the decline advocate not killing them. There are some of us that would like to make the entire State of New Jersey a 3 point or more regulation to get more quality trophy bucks. That would not eliminate bow hunting.

Just as the "if it's brown it's down" mentally can't be reasoned with neither can your positions. I have stated my opinions and have no more to say.
 
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Mike Mate,

It sounds as though you are much more educated on this topic than I am so I will defer to your wisdom on the need for less or no bill fish to be killed.

Your 3 point or better analogy does not work though. You are not talking about only taking trophy Marlin with the spear you are talking about taking zero marlin with the spear thus eliminating spear hunting for marlin altogether.

My main point at the beginning of the thread was to point out how your statement, "I am disappointed to see such a beautiful fish killed" was no different than Stu or Linda saying How could you kill such a beautiful Bear.

Since it seems like we are the only ones on this thread I want to thank you for the debate. Keep on fighting for Bill Fish but remember not to step over the line to the side of the Anti's.

By the way I also support a statewide 3 point or better rule.
 
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