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#41 · (Edited)
nmc02 said:
Gotta disagree. We are entitled to our own opinions. I agree they are tough to judge. However, 88 lbs is small at 10 yards or 100 yards. It is like shooting a fawn. I would not shoot smaller than 200 lb. That is me. I passed on several bears this week. Many over 150. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion....88 lbs is a cub. Not for me...
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most deer i hunt in the southern part of the state dont break 88 pounds. you need to add 20% for the entrails so this bear was l ittle over 100 pounder. meat in the pot! glad you have a choice bear location to be picky and more of a trophy hunter. 100 pound bear will eat much better.
 
#44 ·
Second Chance said:
Too bad this site does not have a "your an ahole" button.

Part of the equation of better deer hunting is the removal of the bears. On the farm I hunt, they have taken over the most-dense cover where the deer USED to bed. Think back a few years ago to when there were much less bears, much less coyotes, with the same amount of idiots recklessly killing everything they saw (recall the truckload of button bucks thread). I saw more deer even with the over-long seasons and gluttonous bag limits. The increase in bears and coyotes was/is just more insult to injury.
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The site would crash if that feature existed. [rofl][rofl][rofl]
 
#45 ·
I'd like to know how many guys making the negative comments actually live in bear country?? How many of you arebfrom southern end of the state where u never see bears and only come up north to hunt them?? Anyone who lives up this way and has to deal with these bears all year round and not only during hunting season would be happy to have any size bear taken.
 
#46 ·
hunterdan199 said:
First of all the black bear is the hardest game animal in the world to judge .

secondly half you guys prob never saw a bear or harvested one in the first place .

thirdly that 88 pound bear walking by you at 50 yards looks 300 pounds unless you have other bears in the group . plus I bet the 88 pound bear melted in your mouth when the family eats it .

how you even compare that situation to a pickup truck full of buttons shot by guys with no teeth in their mouth !!!!!!!!!!!'

and congrats to father and son on bear priceless moments that will last for ever.
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Hell he did better than me. Dan I need help too
 
#48 ·
05R1 said:
On a second note is there a difference in a full grown man doing a hero pose over the 30 lbs fawn he just killed or a kid standing next to his first black bear at 88lbs? You bet you the kid has something to be proud of while the full grown man is just a yambag taking a needless photo
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when I originally posted my comment, this is what I was referring to
 
#50 ·
the guys busting the kid for an 88lb bear are the same guy that shoot deer still in spots. Like the OP said, bears are hard to judge without a measuring stick i.e. bait barrel, other bear, etc.
 
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#51 ·
I remember years ago, a guy was on a bear hunt and shot one at last light. He decided to go back to camp and ask for help recovering the bear, since it ran into some thick brush, and he didn't want to go in by himself. A few of us obliged and made our way to the area. While walking in, the hunter kept assuring us that it was a "big" bear. Well, we finally tracked it and it caught us all by surprise.
Turned out to be a yearling cub. While standing around it, one of the other hunters said "ok, we found your bear. Now throw it in your backpack, and lets get back to camp".

Point of the story, if you want to show the world your kills, you'd better be ready for some consequences.
 
#53 ·
Hunter Dan you sir are spot on !!!!! as well as all other pointing out this is a management hunt young bears grow up to be big bears and the competition for the same resources is why we must hunt them because as we all know hunting is the hub of conservation. What this kid did was an amazing achievement nothing less deserves our respect and consideration....
 
#55 ·
GUTPILE68 said:
BGomez you have officially reached the highest achievable rank of ahole ! Congrats you deserve it!
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No, I'm not a liberal.

I was raised by a Drill Sergeant and taught discipline and self-restraint, and that everything in the world isn't about "me, me, me" and instant gratification. That work (GASP) and proper preparaion is required for success in life. This is being lost in today's world where "everyone gets a trophy", and "everyone must equally succeed", and you can see this in the lack of restraint that today's young people too often have. I was taught patience is a virtue and that justified self-denial is a critical life skill, and both of these are far more important than being taught how to gut a button buck on the very first day.

And FWIW? The whole, "they'll lose interest if they don't kill a deer their very first day out" is a completely ridiculous 100% total line of BS, and not indicative of the child's "lack of patience", but indicative of the father's lack of patience. You know what they'll really learn if they don't get a deer the very first time out? That hunting takes skill, that good things come to those who wait, patience, and actual appreciation for their success, a love for the woods, and about 1001 other important things. So live your life the way you want, but don't call people "aholes" who don't wish to live in the liberal's instant-gratification world. Now run along and take a selfie and post it to FB. Everyone wants to see what you, the most important thing on Planet Earth, are doing.
 
#57 ·
BenedictGomez said:
The entire point of the hunt is to cull bear numbers, so there's really no big deal in shooting an 88lb bear. Congratulations, I say.

That said, I entirely disagree with those who say it's "okay because it was a kid" - these same people say the same thing about kids shooting small button bucks etc... In my opinion, children need to be taught the invaluable lesson of self-restraint in life, not just in hunting, but in all disciplines. My 2¢.
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True on both points. I won't pass judgment because I wasn't there and I've never hunted bear so I don't know how hard they are to judge. But in all honesty, what does it matter, a bear is a bear. If the goal is to reduce numbers then they succeeded.

tcook8296 said:
Plenty of time to teach kids about hunting and life in general. First you have to get them interested, then you can teach them
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Never too early to start. Also, just seeing a bear would be a thrill for most kids regardless of whether they got off a shot. If a kid gets a chance to see a bear but loses interest because it couldn't shoot it maybe it is time to question what that child is being taught about hunting and life in general.
 
#58 ·
I'm fine with the young man who was succesful in the management hunt. My concern is the grown men who fail to comprehend what a management hunt is. Disgraceful to try and lessen the experience for the young man...
 
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