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#81 · (Edited)
greatgunstatenj said:
Your logic is backwards. We shouldn't look the other way for Davis because someone looks the other way for the Mayor of San Francisco... instead we should hold them both accountable to the law.
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So why don't we? We have a lawless President who ignores laws , and apparently its fine. Millions of people are allowed to enter the US illegally, access taxpayer funded welfare programs, take resources from US citizens and bankrupt the country. My logic is what is more damaging to our country? Homosexuals could get a marriage license from numerous other agents. Their facist objective is to destroy the clerk's religious freedom to keep her faith as she sees fit.
 
#83 · (Edited)
X7_ said:
Anything to create a rift between people in this country is the order of the day. The change in hope and change......
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Yep. Divide and conquer. Why is it wrong to be proud to be an American? Why is it wrong to hope your country does well? If we say we want to be better than China Mexico and Russia, we are condemned as Nativists . It seems many progressives want us to diminish our standard of living so we could be more like the rest of the Third World.
 
#84 · (Edited)
overtimehunter said:
Most people who find what shes doing objectionable , seem to have a bias against relegion. The people in this case can go to another county clerk and have this resolved also without all the hoopla . .....
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Why should these two law abiding citizens be forced to drive to another county? They live in .... pay taxes to ... and obey the laws of .... this county.

And, you know nothing about the religious practices of others.

What's all this stupid "overtime" stuff, anyway?


Wikipedia said:
... Davis has been married four times to three different men.[3] The first three marriages ended in divorce in 1994, 2006, and 2008. She is the mother of twins, who were born five months after her divorce from her first husband. Her third husband is the biological father of the twins, who were adopted by her second husband, Joe, who is also her fourth and current husband ....
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Who's on first ......
 
#86 ·
birddog123 said:
Why should these two law abiding citizens be forced to drive to another county? They live in .... pay taxes to ... and obey the laws of .... this county.
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I pay taxes, too. I wouldn't want my taxes to be used sanction and celebrate in the public eye one of the worst kinds of perversion. Government recognition creates the perception of orthodoxy and normalcy, and I don't want my children and my emotionally driven and gullible countrymen to be beguiled into thinking the the practice of homosexuality is anything other than entirely damaging.

Not so long ago the US Senate, the APA, and society in general recognized the threat posed by those who give themselves over to homosexual impulses. I'm not saying we shouldn't help people who suffer with this affliction, but we should refuse to celebrate in our government institutions a sexual practice that runs contrary to order and the civil society.

I predict that "marriage equality" will soon encompass incestuous marriages with members of the same nuclear family (e.g., father-son, mother-son, brother-brother) polygamous relationships, and child marriage. Sure, I can always wall my children off in my compound, and insulate them from this moral decay, but I don't think we should be forced to be hermits because of an activist secular element that wants to pretend as if we were a nation founded on moral relativism.
 
#87 ·
NorthJersey said:
I pay taxes, too. I wouldn't want my taxes to be used sanction and celebrate in the public eye one of the worst kinds of perversion. Government recognition creates the perception of orthodoxy and normalcy, and I don't want my children and my emotionally driven and gullible countrymen to be beguiled into thinking the the practice of homosexuality is anything other than entirely damaging.

Not so long ago the US Senate, the APA, and society in general recognized the threat posed by those who give themselves over to homosexual impulses. I'm not saying we shouldn't help people who suffer with this affliction, but we should refuse to celebrate in our government institutions a sexual practice that runs contrary to order and the civil society.

I predict that "marriage equality" will soon encompass incestuous marriages with members of the same nuclear family (e.g., father-son, mother-son, brother-brother) polygamous relationships, and child marriage. Sure, I can always wall my children off in my compound, and insulate them from this moral decay, but I don't think we should be forced to be hermits because of an activist secular element that wants to pretend as if we were a nation founded on moral relativism.
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You sound like a sad hateful person.
 
#88 ·
A few points from my humble opinion..

1. The Bible teaches us homosexuality is a sin (1 Corinthians 6:9-10), among other passages. As far as I know, it's not more or less of a sin then other sins. A sin that Jesus overcome through His death on the cross.

2. As Christians we believe God's law supercedes the law of man. We follow mans law as long as it does not contradict God's law.

3. As Christians we are taught not to do anything that could be ammo for a critic of Christianity. Follow mans law to the extent that it does not contradict with God's law. 1 Peter 2:13-17.

I think the right thing for her to do would have been publically resign. It brings attention to the subject, allows her to not break God's law, but at the same time prevent the critics from saying she is grandstanding and wasting public resources.

Just my two cents...sure I could be wrong. I can all see how you can argue she is only handing out a government certificate for the union, not performing the religious sacrament of marriage.
 
#91 ·
bushden said:
The verse you quote refers to taxes not sexual imorality. She took a stand on gay marriage that she was forced upon her by a change in the law, which if she did not comply the cost could be the loss her job and legal action. She was in the job before the change to allow gay mariages, I am sure she new what the final outcome would be (loss of job and legal action) but she stood up for what she thought was right and paid the price. Good for her. If more of us stood up for our second ammendment rights like she stood up against gay marriage we would not be struggling to maintain our 2nd ammendment rights.
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In literal sense you are correct. To interpret it as a parable one would accept it as to obey authority in all cases. I support her too and the fact she has sinned before because of those prior divorces which is against most religious denominations except the Episcopal Church ( Which also approved gay marriage at their 2015 General Convention) is moot. The only sin which is unforgivable in Christianity is denying or blaspheming our Lord. I still say she could have issued the secular license, as long as she didn't personally conduct the disgusting marriage. You are spot on regarding how some of us stand up for our 2nd Amendment rights.
 
#92 ·
swamprat said:
In literal sense you are correct. To interpret it as a parable one would accept it as to obey authority in all cases. I support her too and the fact she has sinned before because of those prior divorces which is against most religious denominations except the Episcopal Church ( Which also approved gay marriage at their 2015 General Convention) is moot. The only sin which is unforgivable in Christianity is denying or blaspheming our Lord. I still say she could have issued the secular license, as long as she didn't personally conduct the disgusting marriage. You are spot on regarding how some of us stand up for our 2nd Amendment rights.
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2a argument is ridiculous unless of course your in favor of gay marriage. Your representing the anti-gun movement in this analogy.

I should be able to carry a firearm because I am a free, law abiding citizen and no one should be able to tell me otherwise. My right to be happy supersedes your right to be offended by it.
 
#94 · (Edited)
H0YT said:
From the way you speak, you seem to hate a persons right to live their life as they see fit just because its different from the way you live yours.
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I don't hate people for making mistakes, and I've met plenty who acknowledge what they're doing is wrong and harmful. Just because we don't hunt down and punish people for deviant behavior doesn't mean we should celebrate their mistakes in the public square as if they were doing something noble. I've seen first hand the damage this behavior does to families and society in general, and I won't remain silent while people attempt to "fundamentally transform" America. We're doing a disservice to people who practice homosexuality and to "the children" when we act like homosexual behavior is as innocuous as the decision to be a vegetarian or a Presbyterian.
 
#95 ·
NorthJersey said:
I don't hate people for making mistakes, and I've met plenty who acknowledge what they're doing is wrong and harmful. Just because we don't hunt down and punish people for deviant behavior doesn't mean we should celebrate their mistakes in the public square as if they were doing something noble. I've seen first hand the damage this behavior does to families and society in general, and I won't remain silent while people attempt to "fundamentally transform" America. We're doing a disservice to people who practice homosexuality and to "the children" when we act like homosexual behavior is as innocuous as the decision to be a vegetarian or a Presbyterian.
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Historically, more people have been killed in the name of Christianity than homosexuals could have ever hurt. And right now there is some Islamic extremist plotting how to kill someone from the western world for not bowing down to allah or muhammad.

So whats the bigger problem?
 
#96 ·
You're promoting the fallacy that you can maintain freedom and equity while rejecting moral absolutism. Our country can survive enemies that kill the body, but we can't afford the wholesale abandonment of our Judeo-Christian heritage. You have plenty of countries that have embraced secular hedonism, but I'm in no hurry for the US to become one of them.
 
#98 ·
Almost every place I was ever sent to protect our defend people was always because of some religion. A lot of good men and women die every god damn day for what I ask? Religion. Bullshit. Religion biggest fairy tale there is.
 
#99 ·
Lets go back a thousand years to the Crusades to bad mouth Christianity, Barack. The Christians were responding to the Islamic takeover of the Holyland. Communism/ Socialism killed over 100 million people in the last 70 years. Remember Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot? No religion every even comes close to that record of death. Maybe Islamic radicals like the one's Obama is letting have nukes, billions, and weapons technology will, kill more.
 
#100 ·
ruffhills said:
Almost every place I was ever sent to protect our defend people was always because of some religion. A lot of good men and women die every god damn day for what I ask? Religion. Bullshit. Religion biggest fairy tale there is.
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Most people embrace religion, whether they realize it or not. Few folks in America are pure nihilists. If you have any notion of wright and wrong you have religion.
 
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