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Good point on the ppm. Good chance that revealing that info will make it far easier for those who think it bs to challenge the unsupported claim that it is sufficient enough to mask yr scent.
Precisely.

Which I why I speculate that that is the real reason why the Ozonics company does not disclose ppm.

As I said to NJ_Bowhntr, it would be extremely challenging to win a lawsuit like this. BUT, if you have an actual bogey (ppm) that you can scientifically work your argument factually around, it would become 100x easier. As I noted, it's established science how much ppm is harmful to humans and at what ppm levels different irritant symptoms begin, it's established science how much ppm is necessary for humans to smell o3, etc.... I imagine you could even quantify the diffusion rate and distance in a laboratory setting.

It would also be interesting to compare how much o3 Ozonics cranks out in ppm versus commercial units which are specifically NOT operated in the presence of human beings due to safety hazard, and can thus presumably emit much higher levels of o3. What if the the commercial companies claim that to eliminate odor you need to crank out way more o3 than Ozonics does? That would be rather difficult for Ozonics to explain were it the case.

As far as deer seeing u but not running, i questioned that claim as well. How can anyone claim to know what a deer sees or doesnt see? What hunter hasnt had numerous deer look right at them on a stare down & eventually decide you can b ignored? Maybe if he waved to the deer or made a clearly human noise & proved it on numerous deer, both with & without ozonics running, it could b believed the deer saw the hunter but didnt run
That's true. Deer see motion extraordinarily well, but if you dont move for a long time, they can eventually get comfortable with you as not a threat. But this all is circular and gets back to the "new improved tasting cat food" thing. Like you said, how the heck can you tell because it's not like the deer can talk. lol
 
I really wanna just test one to see for myself or hunt beside someone. I will not shower for a week and shit in a bucket and if I don't see deer I will be pissed. Lol. In all seriousness everyone is going to have there opinion on something bad and good. One person swears by a product and hates another while someone else swears by a product others hate. For my awesome comment can I get a free trail run?
Anyone can (see below), go for it.

Full money back guarantee, that's how they hook you in, with the placebo effect.

You hang it in your stand a few times and if you kill a deer you SWEAR it was because of Ozonics! Nevermind the fact that everyone has killed deer without one, and in the wrong direction of the wind, but if you do it just once with the Ozonics "it must" have been why. As someone else said earlier in the thread, that's called confirmation bias, and Ozonics would hardly be the first company to use that psychological tool to its' advantage.

Give Ozonics a fair tryout. If you do not experience a dramatic reduction in the number of downwind deer that "bust" you, we will refund your money in the same calendar year as purchase.

You will need to provide a copy of your receipt. We will explain the return process. When your unit is received by us, we will issue your refund.
 
The mouse is in the belltower. Red team go. I repeat red team go
 
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Not for nothing but why should he restate what has already been covered in this thread?
Well, if you think that is the last word...the ONLY word on Ozonics... that there is no information to the contrary, or that disputes this, than you should go after them, just like happened in the other famous "scent control scam" case. If what you posted is cold hard fact, indisputable and there is no other compelling information to the contrary, people should be lining up to get paid. I'll wait and see how you guys make out with it. Right now, you say it doesn't work and you can prove it, they say it does work and they can prove it, and so far, you are not winning that argument, they are because they are still in business and business is booming.
 
As I said before. They thought agent orange and asbestos were great things too...for a time
 
Here's one of the reasons that you would not do well in suing for misrepresentation of their product.
I will admit that a good percentage of folks read the statement below will see it as "proof" that the product works as suggested. There are also just as many folks that will read it and come to the conclusion that it is a complete sidestep to the question.


  • Can you quantify Ozonics effectiveness in the field?
    IF Ozonics is used correctly our experience suggests a hunter will see a dramatic decrease in the number of “busts” by animals. We have hunters who hunt almost every day during hunting season who claim they’ve never been busted. There are MANY factors in this success. These hunters have years of product use in the field coupled with complete understanding of how the product should be used in a variety of circumstances. These hunters understand their own limitations in addition to product limitations. In some cases, these hunters go above and beyond what the average hunter will do and may even use more than one unit in strong or especially variable winds. This is a simple acknowledgement the product is effective, but does have limitations; remember ozone MUST contact the odor of the hunter to be effective. Note that multiple units are NOT necessary for most hunting conditions.

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I like the I need 10 guys to make it worth my time..then it goes to 15...lol...I dont have any facts if it works or not but I'll stick to being as scent free as possible and hunting the wind. I have no problem killing decent deer.
 
I have no opinion on Ozonics and I have also bought into the hole Scentlock scam some years ago. One thing I can say is that I have hunted in many different states for whitetails with some really good guides and outfitters. These guides and outfitters laugh and joke about all the scent scams out there. All they talk about is stand placement in relation to wind direction. Hunting the wind is cheaper but not free because you have to have several stand locations to hunt the many different wind directions but it is the most proven effective way. Hunting is more enjoyable for me now not worrying about all the scent scams and not stressing about scent control all the time. I wake up in the morning check the weather and that makes my decision where I am hunting and that's it. It works not a 100% but nothing is 100%. I always say hunt however you want as long as its enjoyable for you. Last year I hunted in Kansas during the rut and there was a hunter that said he was going to hunt the same stand location all week without any scent control scams and not worrying about the wind. I laughed to myself because its not the way I would hunt but, thought whatever its the way he wants to hunt. This hunter shot a beautiful Buck.
 
^^^^ Bone buster - I tend to agree, I wear all my scent lok and scent blocker stuff still, because it's comfy good camo, and might just cut down a little bit of my stank but it really is a farce... The one thing I would add though, is spraying down your feet before walking in. That absolutely does make a difference!!! Play the wind AND do all you can to cover up your foot scent before the walk in....
 
Yea I still wear my scent lok for the same reasons plus I spent good money on it. I am not saying spraying your feet wont work or help but, I do know that we all emit microscopic particles bearing scent and it does not just come from our feet it comes from our hole body. No matter what we wear or spray on ourselves those particles will fall from our bodies leaving scent. I am sure you know this but, this is how all animals smell us and this is how dogs track humans.
 
I have no opinion on Ozonics and I have also bought into the hole Scentlock scam some years ago. One thing I can say is that I have hunted in many different states for whitetails with some really good guides and outfitters. These guides and outfitters laugh and joke about all the scent scams out there. All they talk about is stand placement in relation to wind direction. Hunting the wind is cheaper but not free because you have to have several stand locations to hunt the many different wind directions but it is the most proven effective way. Hunting is more enjoyable for me now not worrying about all the scent scams and not stressing about scent control all the time. I wake up in the morning check the weather and that makes my decision where I am hunting and that's it. It works not a 100% but nothing is 100%. I always say hunt however you want as long as its enjoyable for you. Last year I hunted in Kansas during the rut and there was a hunter that said he was going to hunt the same stand location all week without any scent control scams and not worrying about the wind. I laughed to myself because its not the way I would hunt but, thought whatever its the way he wants to hunt. This hunter shot a beautiful Buck.
This is pretty much where I am on it, however, I have changed the way I hunt out of state a bit. I have multiple spots for multiple winds in NJ and still hunt that way here, and when I first started hunting in Ohio about 15+ years ago, I did the same. After 2 years of some good hunts but no success, a local told me I move around too much. He said find a good spot and sit there all week during any week in November and you'll kill a deer. Simple but it pretty much works. I narrowed it down to 4 spots, all good funnels, near bedding areas and didn't worry as much about the wind because bucks are roaming from all over at that time of year. What you think is a good or bad wind maybe be just the opposite. I just made sure it was blowing parallel to the bedding area and I started seeing and killing some pretty good deer by using those same stands, sometimes day after day. If there was chasing in the area, I didn't care how the wind was blowing, I was going there. Never get away with that in NJ.

Wind direction is much more critical in September and October when deer are on a pattern following a route, and not just cruising for, or chasing does.
 
another tip I do for boots, is just grind them into grass and dirt after I spray them down... as I start my walk... I do spray outside of boots, and legs all the way up with the scent killer spray. I find that doing all that, plus playing the wind works pretty well... Still - I do think the ozonics would help on those low/no wind days when there is no way to play the wind... Enough people I know and trust say they do work so I don't doubt it helps at least somewhat, in ideal conditions, especially in a blind..
 
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