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#22 ·
You all are on computers right now. Don't criticize others for utilizing advances in technology as some sort of appeal to purity. If my goal is to get a deer, I'm taking full advantage of everything made available to me. If your goal is to enjoy the whole process leading up to the kill, then that's your thing. I just finished my 16 year football career, ending at montclair state. Personally, I enjoyed gameday a hell of a lot more than I did practices.
 
#23 ·
I for one am definitely not criticizing anyones use of the advances in our sport. I would use one if I had one(crossbow) but to compare compounds and xbows as the same or not being much of an advantage is asinine. Use what you want to use for sure and enjoy your time out in the woods!
 
#24 ·
Hate to say it, but most advances over the last 30 years have been designed to make taking deer easier. And pull cash out of hunters pockets. Just look at the post on how much money is spent a year on hunting. Outdoor channel comes along guys are being taught the wrong way.
 
#25 ·
ember said:
Hate to say it, but most advances over the last 30 years have been designed to make taking deer easier. And pull cash out of hunters pockets. Just look at the post on how much money is spent a year on hunting. Outdoor channel comes along guys are being taught the wrong way.
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No doubt. Very small improvements year to year keeps the demand up. It's all about business. I'm all for people spending money to support the economy but some guys over extend themselves in the process.
 
#27 ·
gregtpal said:
How do you possibly get by without an Ozonics unit?
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I'm not a gadget guy at all, don't even use tail cams. 30 years ago when I first got serious about deer hunting I had a pair of binos, call, knife and a flashlight a few years later I collected every gadget made. I got tired of carrying everything and went back to the basics in the last 10 or so years. Im starting to phase out camo as well, killed deer with a flannel and blue jeans plenty of times..
 
#28 ·
swampbuck said:
I'm not a gadget guy at all, don't even use tail cams. 30 years ago when I first got serious about deer hunting I had a pair of binos, call, knife and a flashlight a few years later I collected every gadget made. I got tired of carrying everything and went back to the basics in the last 10 or so years. Im starting to phase out camo as well, killed deer with a flannel and blue jeans plenty of times..
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All of these things make you dependent. They start to own you instead of you enjoying the sport.
 
#29 ·
I think most are missing the point I think Rusty is trying to make which is that once in lines were allowed, muzzleloader hunting exploded onto the scene. I don't have the numbers to back that up, but may work on that later if I find the time. We'd need to know about when they hit the market and were legal here in NJ and look at license sales from there on I guess. He's pointing out that the advent of in line over the old muzzloaders is about the same change we're seeing between compounds and crossbows, yet there was little or no uproar at the time. It might coincide with a high deer population when we had more than 200,000 deer in the state and we were basically overrun with them. Now that the Division has spent more than 10 years to lower the herd to acceptable levels ("acceptable" being a whole other argument), crossbows are far more controversial with some than in lines were in their time. At least that's my perspective.
 
#30 ·
There was a more public mumur in the early 70s on compound bows than in the mid 80s on the inline. Archery season was just that stick and string.

Separate old school front loaders seasons have been around for quite a while but shotgun season have been the mainstay in this state and the more efficient tool. So.....making a more efficient rifle to match the shotgun was not that big of a deal. Other states that allow rifles less so except states like PA.

but to goto a compound over a stick and string was a huge leap.
 
#31 ·
Let's face it - the ballistics of today's modern inline muzzleloader is far superior to any single shot slug gun.... Just have a "gun season" and call it what it is...

Lets eliminate the sham of "6-day firearm" and break it down into two categories...

1 - here are the dates you are allowed to hunt with a bow
2- here are the dates you are allowed to hunt with a gun

I lot of guys use their muzzy for 6-day, because they know it's the better weapon and can kill a deer 200 yards or more...
 
#32 ·
Huge difference between a flinter and an inline.... hardest part with the flinter is making sure it goes off! lol and I love it!!! also like the inline too but it did take the fear of hunting in inclement weather out of the equation.
 
#34 ·
bloodtrails said:
Compounds aren't drawn like a "normal" bow.

With 80%+ letoff you can hold them back for a couple minutes if needed.
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They ARE drawn like a normal bow. Let off is relative. "You can hold back for a couple of minutes" Who is you? Under what conditions can it be held back? I can't draw my bow when it's 0 degree's outside, let alone hold it for a few minutes. And when it's 20 degree's outside and I'm completely bundled up, the chance of a deer hearing me draw my bow because of the bulky clothing make it very probably that the animal will hear me. Now, actually getting a shot off while bundled up is even more trouble. I wear a bulky face mask in this weather and it throws off my nock point, so before I draw my weapon I need to remove my face mask. Drawing a traditional bow is to drawing a compound bow as aiming a rifle is to aiming a crossbow.
 
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palawman30 said:
Huge difference between a flinter and an inline.... hardest part with the flinter is making sure it goes off! lol and I love it!!! also like the inline too but it did take the fear of hunting in inclement weather out of the equation.
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Agreed, also Flintlocks if tuned correctly, have a less lock time than caplocks and are as accurate, in the correct weather conditions, in the right hands.

most shots in NJ are within 100 yards making the 250 yard inline sort of a mid and western rifle where it really became a huge advantage.
 
#36 ·
ember said:
Agreed, also Flintlocks if tuned correctly, have a less lock time than caplocks and are as accurate, in the correct weather conditions, in the right hands.

most shots in NJ are within 100 yards making the 250 yard inline sort of a mid and western rifle where it really became a huge advantage.
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Agreed! Theres a guy over here who has been trying for YEARS! to get this type of ignition system allowed for flinters.... Its not happening though! lol Looks like a BIC lighter
 

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#37 ·
Does it really matter what you use??? Unless your using a long bow you made yourself and a flintlock a blacksmith made your not traditional. Who cares what the other guy uses and stop crying and saying "I'm better than you because I use a carbon fiber compound with 90% let off and your using a crossbow". Internet tough guys who think they are better than everyone else. I am in this to kill deer with whatever legal weapon they allow me to. A dead deer is a dead deer. Just my $0.02
 
#39 ·
3rdstreet said:
Does it really matter what you use??? Unless your using a long bow you made yourself and a flintlock a blacksmith made your not traditional. Who cares what the other guy uses and stop crying and saying "I'm better than you because I use a carbon fiber compound with 90% let off and your using a crossbow". Internet tough guys who think they are better than everyone else. I am in this to kill deer with whatever legal weapon they allow me to. A dead deer is a dead deer. Just my $0.02
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yep just a friendly conversation on a good topic.
 
#40 ·
I would love to take a deer with a flinter! I just don't want to take another test on firearms, now that they combined them why not just grandfather us guys who took the shotgun test already? There's little difference in safe handling of either.
 
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