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yes, its the same. go to any "traditional" muzzleloading forum, where inlines and modern aren't even allowed to be mentioned. they just want to play dress up and act like Daniel boone. then drive their car back home to their condo.
 
Was there Internet forums to uproar on when that happened? Don't think so for the most part. It's the same as "the world is crazy these days we can't even let our kids go play down the street because some crazy person might do something to them"

News flash there have always been crazy people no more so today than yesterday the only diffrence is how we hear about it.

Inlines over percussion is not that much more of a advantage being it still a gun than crossbows over compounds where the crossbow is a basically a gun in bow season.
 
If I recall there was an uproar when we had to put a scope on a shotgun if using slugs. then use inline muzzloaders. I noticed with myself I have reverted back to simpler implements and accessories over the 25 years. In the past 10-15 years my pack has become smaller and smaller. Now, its just a good pair of binos, a call, flashlight and a sharp knife and that's it. These days IMO it is the ethics that have become trivial not so much what hunters are using. I have hunted with some people that have zero woodsmanship and are really missing out on the best parts of hunting.
 
Inlines came in with Tony Knight and Doc White. The design is for the masses to get into hunting and kill deer easier, the same with allowing modern crossbows. And even compounds for that matter.

Most hunters do not want to take the time or the patience to work up a load and practice alot, with an old cap or flintlock or get within 75 yards of a deer to make a kill. Can say the same for trad archery.

As crossbows and compounds it takes less time and effort to take game consistently than with a recurve.

It is all good, and I shoot and hunt all with all of the above. Except the crossbow.
 
If your hunting compound bow was drawn the whole time with no effort, ready to fire and with a scope ready to kill at 40-60 yards then maybe...but its not even close. I know someone that cant hit the broadside of a barn with any compound but give him a crossbow and he'll spilt arrows or come close....oh and he'll practice with the compound and never with the crossbow....hmmmmmm. Also some people may shoot well from the ground with a compound but when they get in a tree they dont bend at the waist and their shots are off...takes practice. Doesnt matter with a crossbow

With a traditional or a compound bow the same average ethical range for most hunters is still 20 yards(NOT saying many or most hunters cant shoot farther) but the second the crossbow is in someones hands its ethical range is doubled....its not as much the indian its more the arrow when it comes to crossbow. Im not knocking them either. They are a proficient weapon that I would use myself if I owned one
 
Satin's tools all that's what I say!!!

All kidding aside I have to go with the gun thing to a point even a flintlock was in the end a gun and just a trigger pull .

The crossbow changed "bow hunting" from hand held hand drawn in the presents of game to just a trigger pull also even though compounds and mech. Releases have been doing that incrementally for some time.
As our deer herd spirals downward I have to wonder will sportsmen choose time afield over efficiency of their tools or not?
 
If I recall there was an uproar when we had to put a scope on a shotgun if using slugs. then use inline muzzloaders. I noticed with myself I have reverted back to simpler implements and accessories over the 25 years. In the past 10-15 years my pack has become smaller and smaller. Now, its just a good pair of binos, a call, flashlight and a sharp knife and that's it. These days IMO it is the ethics that have become trivial not so much what hunters are using. I have hunted with some people that have zero woodsmanship and are really missing out on the best parts of hunting.
When did they require a scope on a shotgun shooting slugs? I didn't even know that was a law. I remember when they required two fixed sights instead of one or none. My dad drilled my vent rib on my 500 and added a second bead, that I recall.
 
When did they require a scope on a shotgun shooting slugs? I didn't even know that was a law. I remember when they required two fixed sights instead of one or none. My dad drilled my vent rib on my 500 and added a second bead, that I recall.
Iron sights is all that is required. Scopes are optional.
 
If I recall there was an uproar when we had to put a scope on a shotgun if using slugs. then use inline muzzloaders. I noticed with myself I have reverted back to simpler implements and accessories over the 25 years. In the past 10-15 years my pack has become smaller and smaller. Now, its just a good pair of binos, a call, flashlight and a sharp knife and that's it. These days IMO it is the ethics that have become trivial not so much what hunters are using. I have hunted with some people that have zero woodsmanship and are really missing out on the best parts of hunting.
How do you possibly get by without an Ozonics unit?
 
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