I think we can all agree that the 40 dollars we spend for the Pheasant/Quail stamp is quite a bargin. The State for the most part does a good job distributing the birds with limited resources available. When you look at some neighboring states and see what they have to offer the upland hunter it's plain to see that NJ is doing a good job at keeping the small game hunting heritage alive and well. But it's been years since there was an increase in the price of the Pheasant/Quail stamp. So my question is, how much of an increase would you be willing to pay to continue to hunt pheasant and quail in the state.
The Price of your Passion?
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Great tribute to you dad. I miss hunting with my father. One of my fondest memories is my son shooting his first pheasant with his grandfathers 12 ga dbl. with grandpa watching. Keep on collecting those feathers. Multiple family hunting days for $40 is priceless.
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Get them for free the only price I pay is getting yelled at by the old lady for running out the door so early on sat and sleeping at the table when we go out in the evening haha oh and probably a ton of money for days I take off of work. I will come up with any excuse to hunt!
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Why would the State do away with a good thing.Pheasant hunting is here to stay.Look at the Quail program.check the non-resident car and truck tags in the parking lots of Peaslee and Greenwood WMA.
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Why would the State do away with a good thing.Pheasant hunting is here to stay.Look at the Quail program.check the non-resident car and truck tags in the parking lots of Peaslee and Greenwood WMA.
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Bill,
It's a hypothetical question, I personally feel the 40 dollars for the stamp is an outstanding value. But it's been quite some time since they raised the price of the stamp. Does the 40 dollars still cover the costs? We all know a dollar doesn't buy what it used to. I would have no problem with a significant raise in the stamps price!
It's a hypothetical question, I personally feel the 40 dollars for the stamp is an outstanding value. But it's been quite some time since they raised the price of the stamp. Does the 40 dollars still cover the costs? We all know a dollar doesn't buy what it used to. I would have no problem with a significant raise in the stamps price!
Ok I gotta comment, in plain English Id shut the f up. No disrespect to you, but it is a good thing n the price is fair. Funny how they spend money to raise chickens n charge a fair price yet you gotta decide between paying your kids tuition and hunting deer in this state. They don't spend a thing on that. I don't buy many permits anymore. NY is actually way cheaper, especially since license structure change
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To answer your question, no. This is why the Division is considering buying birds from a for-profit entity since most of the workers that handle our birds are senior employees whose benefits are at the high end and we can no longer cover the costs with stamp sales. Last time they raised the fee, they lost a lot of hunters and wound up breaking even (more revenue per stamp, but selling far fewer stamps). Stay tuned, because they may be forced to close or lease out Rockport.
That said, we continue to miss out on our best options which is to spend no funds and have loggers create more habitat for grouse, woodcock and rabbits which are all wild small game. While the state does not make much when they log our WMAs, they do make a small amount instead of having to raise non-native pheasants at a cost.
It was 10 yrs or so ago the state came to private breeders wanting to know costs of raising and buying bird from private entities. The restrictions they wanted to put on us as breeders were absolutely crazy. Tails had to be certain lengths they would only except reg ringnecks, no melonistics, no blue backs and if all these things could not be met we would not get paid. Even after raising and feeding them all year. All the breeders got together and told them to pound sand. To answer your original question no I wouldn't buy it. But have to agree with bucks and bows. We have some of the best habitat going for free if they would just let us manage it, but oh my god that would require a chainsaw. Never going to happen in this state. Which is why I for one think the rfg society is full of dung also. But that's just me. Ruffed Grouse the king of all game birds!!!!!! And now for the rest of the story.
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Actually, the Division is trying to do a lot more with habitat in the area of early successional forest, but they are so very limited in staff. The main person for the northern area of the state and her counterpart in the south are both retiring early this year and I doubt we'll see any replacements. Conservation orgs like NJ Audubon have been working closely to create this habitat, but I fear momentum may be lost since we're losing all our Division land management folks to retirement.....
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Absolutely I would personally like to see the stamp raised to 100 to 125. Still cheaper then one day at a preserve and it would drastically reduce the number of weekend warriors while still providing the funds needed to maintain the program.
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I read the Federal migratory bird stamp is going up from $15 to $25, this year as well.
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it's been at $15 for a really long time. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner myself.
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No!
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I'm going the controversial route and say that we should end all stocking of trout and pheasants and instead, focus on improving habitat for native and wild fish and small game. The stocking mentality has an ugly side as we read here all of the time, leading to an entitlement mentality that the only good day in the fields or on the rivers is if the hunter/angler limits out. That shouldn't be what hunting or fishing is all about. Stocking is the major problem there....
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According the NJ Fish and game, the pheasant /bobwhite program is entirely funded by the stamp.
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According the NJ Fish and game, the pheasant /bobwhite program is entirely funded by the stamp.
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P&Q stocking produces funds and public support for early succession habitat. It also helps get people into hunting, thereby not only generating but also sustaining one source of conservation funding. ESH benefits non hunters and non game too. I kill about 10 grouse and that many woodcock while hunting released pheasant- that is because the practice of maintaining stocking fields creates ideal habitat for native wildlife, game and non game alike... NJ has 2 million acres of open space, but only 4% of it is ESH. Take away pheasant opportunities and you take away some of the funding and some of the political support for the division to get out there and do habitat management. It would be wiser to start expanding these stocking programs rather than eliminate them. It would be good to put a strategy in place that distributes the hunting opportunity so it isnt so crowded. Some states prohibit lead ammo for pheasant where they are stocked, and that would be a wise practice and would encourage support for hunting by nature enthusiasts, who are not necessarily anti hunting.
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Fish and game isn't going to go bankrupt because the pheasant and bobwhite program isn't pulling its weight. The money can come from somewhere, just re-allocate in the budget
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