I think we can all agree that the 40 dollars we spend for the Pheasant/Quail stamp is quite a bargin. The State for the most part does a good job distributing the birds with limited resources available. When you look at some neighboring states and see what they have to offer the upland hunter it's plain to see that NJ is doing a good job at keeping the small game hunting heritage alive and well. But it's been years since there was an increase in the price of the Pheasant/Quail stamp. So my question is, how much of an increase would you be willing to pay to continue to hunt pheasant and quail in the state.
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I think we can all agree that the 40 dollars we spend for the Pheasant/Quail stamp is quite a bargin. The State for the most part does a good job distributing the birds with limited resources available. When you look at some neighboring states and see what they have to offer the upland hunter it's plain to see that NJ is doing a good job at keeping the small game hunting heritage alive and well. But it's been years since there was an increase in the price of the Pheasant/Quail stamp. So my question is, how much of an increase would you be willing to pay to continue to hunt pheasant and quail in the state.
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I like hunting pheasant in jersey and and grouse in Pa.
I raise birds....pigeons, quail and chukar. I know what it costs to feed, and house them. Extrapolated to what jersey raises mean the $40 the state is getting from the guys that hunt them is more than enough. I actually wish Pa would go to a stamp to raise more birds here than what they do. Our pheasant expense come from our $20 general hunting license.
I raise birds....pigeons, quail and chukar. I know what it costs to feed, and house them. Extrapolated to what jersey raises mean the $40 the state is getting from the guys that hunt them is more than enough. I actually wish Pa would go to a stamp to raise more birds here than what they do. Our pheasant expense come from our $20 general hunting license.
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The NJDFW must be commended for their pheasant stocking program. The State stocks an average of 55,000 birds through the sales of approximately 12,000 stamps. That works out to about $8.75 per stocked bird. As far as State programs are concerned this is extremely efficient.
Wish they would raise the stamp price by $15 and add 8 more days of stocking thru the end of February. Another option would be to establish a separate "winter season" which would only require the sale of approximately 4,000 stamps to fund an additional 16,000 birds. These birds could be stocked at a rate of 2000 per week for 8 weeks which would keep the season going to the end of February... wishful thinking.
Wish they would raise the stamp price by $15 and add 8 more days of stocking thru the end of February. Another option would be to establish a separate "winter season" which would only require the sale of approximately 4,000 stamps to fund an additional 16,000 birds. These birds could be stocked at a rate of 2000 per week for 8 weeks which would keep the season going to the end of February... wishful thinking.
i agree completely with you on the first paragraph [up] as for the second paragraph,i would raise it to 20.00 to also cover the cost of quail which is purchased through an outside vendor,i'm sure their prices need to go up at some point.the last increase we had the stamp was 22.00,it's now 40.00.an increase of 18.00.i believe 20.00 increase is a very small price to pay to keep it going the way it is.
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I will not buy my stamp on 2015
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Yes, Winter Pheasant Season!!!
I would gladly pay for another stamp, even another $40.00 one.
You know why...because it would save me $800.00 that I pay to be in a semi wild club.
It would be a win,win for the state and local businesses.
The diners, delis, sporting goods stores would love the extra sales and the state would get the extra taxes from those sales.
This could even create a few jobs, whats not to like about a Winter Pheasant Season.
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One thing you must remember is the eggs are collected in March April and I think May which means that those birds must be feed and cares for a lot longer. If you ever belong to a Semi Wild Club as the season progresses.
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To account for the 2 additional months of feeding and taking care of the 16,000 birds, I raised the per bird cost to $10. I also factored in the fact that on a "good year" such as we had in 2014, the program produced an extra 5,000 birds (60,000 total) which lowers the initial $8.75 cost per bird to $8.
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Guys -
I have to say that the NJ pheasant/quail stamp program is a HUGE bargain. It is an especially terrific bargain if you factor in the VERY real and VERY significant costs of maintaining the fields which make pheasant and quail hunting possible. The grounds in the south must be burned and disced and overseeded on a continuing basis and the grounds up north must be disced and cut and reseeded to keep the woody growth from taking over everything. Sterile, mature woods need to be thinned and cut to make way for the successional growth which is the key to wildlife propagation.
Deer and turkey management is mostly stupid simple...and cheap as all get out. All you gotta do is slap a sign on the outside and PRESTO you have a deer management and turkey management area. Upland game habitat management takes a LOT of time, effort, planning, equipment and money.
The division sometimes does not do the greatest job with upland management ...like planting Russian Olive in places and the infamous multiflora, but overall, they do a magnificent job of providing both game to hunt and places to hunt for the upland enthusiast, and overall they have shown a real willingness to work with folks who want to improve the properties for a wide range of outdoor activities while being sensitive to the needs of different interest groups. I am sure that can be a real challenge sometimes.
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I have to say that the NJ pheasant/quail stamp program is a HUGE bargain. It is an especially terrific bargain if you factor in the VERY real and VERY significant costs of maintaining the fields which make pheasant and quail hunting possible. The grounds in the south must be burned and disced and overseeded on a continuing basis and the grounds up north must be disced and cut and reseeded to keep the woody growth from taking over everything. Sterile, mature woods need to be thinned and cut to make way for the successional growth which is the key to wildlife propagation.
Deer and turkey management is mostly stupid simple...and cheap as all get out. All you gotta do is slap a sign on the outside and PRESTO you have a deer management and turkey management area. Upland game habitat management takes a LOT of time, effort, planning, equipment and money.
The division sometimes does not do the greatest job with upland management ...like planting Russian Olive in places and the infamous multiflora, but overall, they do a magnificent job of providing both game to hunt and places to hunt for the upland enthusiast, and overall they have shown a real willingness to work with folks who want to improve the properties for a wide range of outdoor activities while being sensitive to the needs of different interest groups. I am sure that can be a real challenge sometimes.
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stock birds into February and i will pay 60 for the stamp.
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I would like to see the stamp go to $100 minimum, thin out the overcrowding even if it means fewer birds so I could leave the Kevlar and tweezers at home. I switched to ducks a couple of years ago and they stock everyday with no crowds. I would need a really good reason to go back to nj pheasants under the current crush of participants waiting at the end of each hedgerow to shoot in my direction at any bird I flush. You can't put a cost on a guy pointing a gun at you and blasting away in your direction. That's a really good deal at $40[eek]
that would still be a good deal [up] if they stocked into february they would probably have to put out less birds during stocking days than they normally do or add on to their facility to raise more birds.if they raised the stamp price to 60 and kept stocking the way it is i would like to see a 3 bird limit on phez.they can keep quail the way it is.
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Nothings ever going to change by posting here.
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How many guys kill 20+ pheasants on that $40 stamp? Go buy 20 live birds from a game farm and let me know what u spend. Heck some guys go on stocking days and limit out. Take the birds home then hit another spot and limit out again. There is your $40 worth in one day!
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When I lived in NJ, I would typically hunt every single stock day with my Dad. We kept a coffee can in my garage and would put one tail feather in the can for every bird shot. at the end of the season, there was often 100 tailfeathers or more in that can. Most days we would not hunt the pheasant areas until late morning. Most days we would limit out.
When my dad passed, I kept on hunting and kept on collecting tailfeathers, only now the feathers I have collected, get put on his grave after the Thanksgiving hunt. The can does not get filled up these days...but that's OK. Since I moved down to Delaware, my son who hunts with me when he can, takes the feathers back up and puts them on Pop's grave for the both of us.
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