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Attention all trappers and outdoorsman,

State Senators Linda Greenstein and Joseph Vitale have introduced a bill S 2538 to ban entirely the use of snares in all trapping. This would eliminate the only tool available to assist in moderating predator populations such as coyote and fox in the State of New Jersey. This will happen if we do not get busy right now!!!!

This legislation was introduced October 27[SUP]th[/SUP] and is currently being reviewed by the Senate Environment and Energy Committee sponsored by Joseph Vitale and Linda Greenstein. We need to contact these members and let them know we oppose this legislation. Please use common sense and be respectful but firm in your opposition. Use facts and a polite smile, do not be rude under any circumstance. It is particularly important for members who live in the district. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/ This is a link to the NJ Legislature website. You can view bills here and also locate your representatives contact information.

These are the folks involved right now - Senators Joseph F. Vitale (District 19, Middlesex) and Linda R. Greenstein (District 14, Mercer and Middlesex) introduced S2538 (see attached), which was referred to the Senate Environment and Energy Committee (Bob Smith (D) from District 17, chair; Linda Greenstein (D) from District 14, vice-chair, Christopher Bateman (D) from District 16, Richard Codey (D) from District 27 and Samuel Thompson (R) from District 12) – all from central or northern portions of the State). Senator Smith holds a M.S., Environmental Science from Rutgers University.

Eliminating the snare in the use of wildlife control would have a direct economic effect on the economy by eliminating over a million dollars generated by trappers through taxes and direct purchase retail sales and proceeds from fur sales.

In addition, nuisance calls to the New Jersey Division of Fish and wildlife have continued on an upward trend for more than a few years. Snares are the only tools available for wildlife control in New Jersey. If the snare is eliminated a direct impact on public safety will occur due to the increase in the prevalence of disease such as rabies and distemper, as well as predation attempts on humans and livestock. New Jersey has documented at least two attacks by coyotes on humans this year.

This legislation was introduced October 27[SUP]th[/SUP] and is currently being reviewed by the Senate Environment and Energy Committee sponsored by Joseph Vitale and Linda Greenstein. We need to contact these members and let them know we oppose this legislation. Please use common sense and be respectful but firm in your opposition. Use facts and a polite smile, do not be rude under any circumstance. It is particularly important for members who live in the district. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/ This is a link to the NJ Legislature website. You can view bills here and also locate your representatives contact information.


On November 10[SUP]th[/SUP] an emergency meeting was held at the Lighthouse Resource Education Center in Waretown NJ. In attendance were Ron Jones NJSFSC trapping committee chair, Pola Galie NJSFSC President, Tom Mulee NJTA President, Ron Deihl NJFH President, Andy Janson NJFH Secretary. Joe Papai former NTA Director and several others. We discussed the need to oppose this bill by contacting our individual representatives – we are stressing handwritten letters of opposition as well as calls and emails.

We are also in the process of bringing opposition from the County Federation Clubs The State Federation, NJOA and USSA to help us in this fight. We need to build a wide support base that includes bow-hunters, deer hunters, small game hunters, and the folks who hunt with dogs.

Senator Joseph F. Vitale Democrat Votes by Bill Votes by Subject
District Office: 569 Rahway Ave., Woodbridge, NJ 07095 (732) 855-7441

Senator Linda R. Greenstein Democrat Votes by Bill Votes by Subject
District Office: 1249 South River Rd., Suite 105, Cranbury, NJ 08512 (609) 395-9911

Senator Richard J. Codey Democrat Votes by Bill Votes by Subject
District Office: 66 W. Mount Pleasant Ave., Livingston, NJ 07039 (973) 535-5017

Senator Christopher Bateman Republican Votes by Bill Votes by Subject
District Office: 36 East Main St., Somerville, NJ 08876 (908) 526-3600

Senator Samuel D. Thompson Republican Votes by Bill Votes by Subject
District Office: 2501 Highway 516, Suite 101, Old Bridge, NJ 08857 (732) 607-7580

Senator Bob Smith Democrat Votes by Bill Votes by Subject
District Office: 216 Stelton Rd., Suite E-5, Piscataway, NJ 08854 (732) 752-0770

These are the members of the Senate Environment and energy Committee. Contact them and let them know you oppose this Bill S2538??

Sincerely

Andy Janson
NJFH Secretary

Jay Mounier
NJFH Secretary Emeritis

These are some points to cover in your letter email or opposition. Trapping is economically important in New Jersey. It is responsible for close to 1 million dollars per year in taxes, equipment, fuel and fur sales. Trapping helps control disease vectors (raccoons, skunks, fox, coyote) which include rabies, distemper and others. Trapping also helps reduce the incidence of wildlife/human conflicts – as everyone is aware several areas of the State have been warned about high incidents of human conflict with coyote populations (Mawah and others).
 
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How do you get caught in a snare let alone 3 ? you crawling on the floor ?? [lol]... I feel the more predators gone the better,if trappers have good success with snares then let them use it. Predators do nothing good get as many as possible [up]
 
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I'll bet you were real happy twitch ups are illegal... When a rabid raccoon bites one of these politicians maybe they will see what trappers do for them. My letters will be typed up when I get home.
 
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Just-John said:
I'll bet you were real happy twitch ups are illegal... When a rabid raccoon bites one of these politicians maybe they will see what trappers do for them. My letters will be typed up when I get home.
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That rabies thing is so much HYPE...It runs it's course, and kills off more critters anyway so better than havin your dog caught in a freakin snare tight around the neck!! I say BAN ALL trapping in the state.. NJ is just too small and crowded to allow those tools anymore. The axiom of banning trapping leads to banning runnin dogs is bogus too.
 
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Reddog1 said:
That rabies thing is so much HYPE...It runs it's course, and kills off more critters anyway so better than havin your dog caught in a freakin snare tight around the neck!! I say BAN ALL trapping in the state.. NJ is just too small and crowded to allow those tools anymore. The axiom of banning trapping leads to banning runnin dogs is bogus too.
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I respectfully disagree, if you want to band trapping give me you bank routing #, phone # and address so I can send you the bill for all my lost live stock and all the feed bought for these live stock that I loose from the fox and coyotes each year, and while I am at it I will give your info to the nursery down the road that looses a lot of trees each year to beavers, I am sure he will want some reimbursement for his loss also. hope you got a big bank account. it is obvious you are a anti and have your own opinions but stick to what you are good at and go smoke your crack pipe some more.
 
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Reddog must be one of those who hunts with dogs and doesn't realize he is a small minority amongst the whole scheme of the hunting community, that can be sectioned off, just like trappers. Divide and conquer. If you are Reddog, when they come after your past time of running your dog, because people like you don't like it, the rest of the hunting community and especially trappers, WILL tell you to blow it out your ass when you come looking for help.

Or Reddog is one of those people who feel fido should be able to "run free" and disregard the leash laws that are in place, because he/she don't believe in them, so they shouldn't apply to them.

I know you are one of the 2, so which one are you? Anything other than these 2 things would make you an anti and a troll on this site and are not wanted here. Period.
 
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With all the liberal idiot Democrats on the committee, it's going to be hard to spell out facts. Hoping this doesn't go anywhere but these idiots never stop trying to screw outdoorsman which ever way they can.
 
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Play fair boys
reddog sorry you feel that way my guess is you are a dog man who bird hunts ever think about the rabbit or pheasant quail grouse etc that you hunt than think about fox coyote **** etc which prey on all you hunt
without trapping there is no way to keep populations at healthy levels let alone disease etc more fox coyotes and **** means less of the target species for the small game hunter not to mention personal livestock .as far as disease run its course it has and will however when you have a healthy population that the land allows both feed and habitat disease rates are lower
when populations aren't held to tolerable levels rates go up same goes for deer in areas that do not allow hunting they become sick vegetation disappears due to overgrazing .auto mortality rates go up and in the end communities are forced to have cull hunts
if from the start a healthy population is targeted you don't have problems just my two cents
 
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tinemaster said:
Play fair boys
reddog sorry you feel that way my guess is you are a dog man who bird hunts ever think about the rabbit or pheasant quail grouse etc that you hunt than think about fox coyote **** etc which prey on all you hunt
without trapping there is no way to keep populations at healthy levels let alone disease etc more fox coyotes and **** means less of the target species for the small game hunter not to mention personal livestock .as far as disease run its course it has and will however when you have a healthy population that the land allows both feed and habitat disease rates are lower
when populations aren't held to tolerable levels rates go up same goes for deer in areas that do not allow hunting they become sick vegetation disappears due to overgrazing .auto mortality rates go up and in the end communities are forced to have cull hunts
if from the start a healthy population is targeted you don't have problems just my two cents[/QUOTE
Shoot all the coyotes and fox for cryin out loud!! Look, Ive run dogs with, and without a gun, and never with the goal to shoot my LIMIT like it's the be all, end all.. I've had dogs caught in legholds in pennsy and maine, and even NJ back in the day, and have lost a client dog to a snare. Times change is all. Hell, I used to run a conibear line in the creek behind my house back in the 80s. Trapping is fine in the wilderness, but there just isn't enough land in our small state to allow EVERYTHING... Live traps? Fine with me.. But I am dang sick of snares along every edge I hit, from October to February... Dang sick. The farmers can get the kill everything permit anyway so that is another non issue... the issue is the snares don't belong where lots of folks, and other non target species roam.. period.. and in NJ there just aint enough room for everyone.. not an anti, just a realist is all.
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rgw said:
I respectfully disagree, if you want to band trapping give me you bank routing #, phone # and address so I can send you the bill for all my lost live stock and all the feed bought for these live stock that I loose from the fox and coyotes each year, and while I am at it I will give your info to the nursery down the road that looses a lot of trees each year to beavers, I am sure he will want some reimbursement for his loss also. hope you got a big bank account. it is obvious you are a anti and have your own opinions but stick to what you are good at and go smoke your crack pipe some more.
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Well, if your losing a ton with the guys trapping your property, then WHAT THE HELL is the difference??? shoot the ones you can, and let the mange and rabies do what the trappers couldn't... The beaver thing is another non issue, as long as the trap is set underwater, I have no problem with it...
 
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Reddog let it go no good is ever going to come from arguments between sportsman themselves
only thing I will say is trapping starts nov 15 not in October just wanted to clear that up if you found gear prior to no that's illegal
 
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