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Gov. Christie Signs Historic Bill to Ban the Sale of Elephant Ivory and Rhino Horns : The Humane Society of the United States

August 5, 2014
Gov. Christie Signs Historic Bill to Ban the Sale of Elephant Ivory and Rhino Horns


New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has taken unprecedented action today by signing legislation that will end New Jersey’s contribution to the devastating international trade in ivory and rhino horns. This is the first law in the country to completely prohibit the import and intrastate sale of such items.

Kathleen Schatzmann, New Jersey state director for The Humane Society of the United States, issued the following statement in response: “We are proud of Governor Christie and state legislators' actions today and applaud them for recognizing the impact the new law will have on the global ivory trade. New Jersey’s leadership shines by setting an example for other states and countries to follow.”

The new law closes loopholes in ivory commerce and, coupled with federal law and recent U.S. Fish and Wildlife regulations, will effectively remove New Jersey from the blood ivory trade. S.2012/A.3128 was sponsored by Sen. Raymond J. Lesniak, D- District 20, and Assemblyman Raj Mukherji, D- District 33.
 
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I understand it's disconcerting to see bans on animal products in America, but you have to understand just how out-of-control the elephant poaching crisis is in Africa.

Banning ivory sales in America is just a symbolic measure. The reality is, almost all the ivory that is poached goes to China.


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Little M said:
Yea, I don't see that as a big deal.
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It's not, unless you own something of value with Ivory....

This ban will cost New Jersey citizens millions of dollars, seriously hamper many from making a living, adversely affect everyone from gun and knife collectors to musicians and antique collectors and will not save a single elephant in Africa. Many citizens, including veterans and the elderly, who have invested in perfectly legal items containing ivory that have been legally in this country for decades, in some cases for centuries, will lose their investments. Some will sell at fire sale prices during the six-month grace period, but most will never even hear about the ban until down the road when they try to sell to cover medical expenses or some other emergency or heirs have to sell their estate. The New Jersey law bans “import, sale, purchase, barter, or possession with intent to sell” ivory from any species, including fossil ivory from mastodons and mammoths extinct for 10,000 years, and has no exceptions whatsoever. The ban will go into effect in six months, during which time anyone who owns antiques, musical instruments, guns, knives, canes, chess sets, art or anything else that contains even the smallest amount of ivory can liquidate it. And, we expect that “liquidate” will be the operative word, for those few who actually are paying attention. Once the law goes into effect, no one can buy, trade, or sell ivory in New Jersey or “possess with the intent to sell,” an extremely vague phrase subject to abuse by authorities. Penalties include a fine of $1000 or double the value of the ivory for a first offense, and $5000 or double the value of the ivory for subsequent offenses. Which begs the question, if it’s illegal to sell, does it actually have any value? -

See more at: NJ Gov. Christie Ignores Property Rights (and Reality) ? Signs Draconian Ivory Ban Into Law | New York City Guns
 
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Elephants are in my opinion , going to be extinct in the wild in our lifetime.....this ban is too little and too late....if youve ever held a elephant tusk, you then really know how much ivory was used for mundane objects such as piano keys etc......in other words not much comes out of a single tusk and when you think of all the ivory objects out there just imagine how many elephants were killed....elephants tusks usually sell by the pound bringing in around $1200 to $2000 retail from what Ive seen....anyway a ban may drive up the prices and only hurt the elephants more, there will be a black market and most collectors have no paperwork to show when the elephant was killed and if legally....
 
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Per the bill, "ivory" becomes a broad category as Bloodtrails pointed out:

A3128
 
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Should've guessed they'd include all ivory, but I don't get why fossil ivory is included? I swear the people running this state and country are just plain stupid.
 
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