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NJ Fish and Game survey. Keep or ban deer drives?

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#141 · (Edited)
happybloodtrail said:
Why do you keep using this term for people with a different opinion than you? I could essentially say the same thing about you, but I have a little bit of respect for you and wouldn't do that.
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"You haven't read the umpteen posts about ban it cause I don't like it? I call that crying not having a civil discussion

Driving is not hunting. It's extermination... They shoot everything and anything that moves...half of them are tanked to.


I totally support banning drives..."

like this one, they have so many good talking points
 
#142 ·
I don't give a crap how people hunt or what they hunt with.none of us want to be told how many rounds our magazine holds or what type of weapon we can have I don't want to be told how I can hunt and on what day I can do it.we don't need anymore restrictions on anything.use your head when the state or fed starts restricting things they never stop if they take away drives soon it will be something else.and FYI the first step in accomplishing that dividing the people.
 
#143 ·
allmann1 said:
You haven't read the umpteen posts about ban it cause I don't like it? I call that crying not having a civil discussion
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No, what I've read is a bunch of people who don't support it for a variety of particular reasons, and a bunch of other posts that people support it for another bunch of reasons. If you can get past your defensive mechanisms and read into the reasoning, then you might just learn something here. Instead, we sit here and argue about stand hunters. Very deflective.
 
#144 ·
buckhound said:
I don't give a crap how people hunt or what they hunt with.none of us want to be told how many rounds our magazine holds or what type of weapon we can have I don't want to be told how I can hunt and on what day I can do it.we don't need anymore restrictions on anything.use your head when the state or fed starts restricting things they never stop if they take away drives soon it will be something else.and FYI the first step in accomplishing that dividing the people.
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Do you hunt at night, from a vehicle, with a spot light, how about with a AR? Be real man.
 
#147 ·
I have hunted with a local club most of my life, and I also took a few years off to hunt with my father. During the time I stand hunted with my father I learned a lot about what happens before, during and after a drive occurs, in the surrounding pieces. While hunting on Monday morning, I could see a boundary road of one of the drives. I see them all line up and drive the piece away from me. Before they were even finished with their drive, I had 5 doe go right in front of me, and into the piece they were still driving, and three of these doe were big mature doe. What I am getting at is this; during 6 day, there is pressure on the deer, no matter if it is from drives or stand hunters. Hunting a highway of a path is not going to ever work if it is in open ground. Pressured deer are going to act differently, and with or without drives the deer are going to be pressured. Scout accordingly and hunt accordingly and you will see plenty of deer.
 
#149 ·
happybloodtrail said:
No, what I've read is a bunch of people who don't support it for a variety of particular reasons, and a bunch of other posts that people support it for another bunch of reasons. If you can get past your defensive mechanisms and read into the reasoning, then you might just learn something here. Instead, we sit here and argue about stand hunters. Very deflective.
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Just so you know what I'm talking about, not being deflective at all, I added a response that shows exactly what I was talking about
 
#152 · (Edited)
it seem alot of people think drives only happen during the six day season, when in reality it happens in all seasons. it seems some have the idea that because they dont like it or have seen or heard of a bad experiance then we should ask fish n wildlife to tighten the law ! what about all the good experiances guys have had doing drives they dont count? we have plenty of laws and reg we dont need more . criminals dont follow them , tresspassers dont follow them, illegal dumpers and people who damage and paint trees etc dont follow existing law. it only hurts the law abideing. you dont like it dont do it! you see tresspassing report it! you find illegal dumping report it. like i said before i can enter the woods in ringwood state park an come out in four different towns a few drives in arent a problem
 
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#153 ·
Also, for the people saying that drive hunters are all drunk, treat people bad…blah blah blah. You should not cast a shadow on all drivers because you had a bad experience. Just like anything else, a certain number of people are going to be jerks and a certain number are going to be nice. If the drivers, or standers are breaking laws, call the wardens, there are already laws in place for that.
 
#155 ·
Hetzel1 said:
Also, for the people saying that drive hunters are all drunk, treat people bad…blah blah blah. You should not cast a shadow on all drivers because you had a bad experience. Just like anything else, a certain number of people are going to be jerks and a certain number are going to be nice. If the drivers, or standers are breaking laws, call the wardens, there are already laws in place for that.
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They are just using that as an excuse to get others to agree with them like the ant gun groups use violence with assault weapons.they just don't have the sense to see what they are doing.
 
#158 ·
I am all in with daktari!! We are in the same hunting group and both do it for the same reason.......having fun with family and good friends!! I cannot tell you how many youth hunters have become diehard hunters because they shot a deer or bear during a drive. These types of memories will make these young adults hunters for life......and believe me we all need youth to become involved for the sake of the sport that we all love. We also invite older hunters who cannot hunt by themselves or drag a deer out of the woods. When I want the woods to myself I bow hunt and save the drives for firearm season. Drives will never be banned during 6 day especially if the state wants to keep the bear population in check. Driving is the best method for bear harvesting...period. We should unite and not fight!!!
 
#159 ·
buckhound said:
I myself am tired of being told how I should hunt, I should not be told I can't drive deer because you like to sit in a tree and I should not be told what buck I should shoot because you believe we should let the smaller bucks grow so NJ has 150" deer you can hang on your wall.it's also ridiculous that some say we are not bow hunters because we use a LEGAL crossbow to bow hunt.how many post on here do we see saying that people who do deer drives are not real hunters as well as those who use crossbows and bait.seems to me a group of HUNTERS are trying to make all other HUNTERS hunt the way they do.
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I am not against gun drives because I had good experiences with them .When a club member has to stand by me like God forbid I shoot a buck instead of any of them . Is that what you call true sportsmanship ??? When Hook and Hoof has to shoot every fawn on Turkey swamp WMA is that really fair chase????? Most gun clubs have their own Land leases also.Do you think they would shoot everything that moves on their own property??
 
Discussion starter · #160 ·
I have done drives with every weapon but always had the common courteousy to avoid ruining someone elses hunt. I think that it all comes to being ethical and courteous, but when there are so many guys in the woods at the same time, the number of unethical events is multiplied exponentially. It does suck but if you choose to hunt in the most densely populated state, this shit is bound to happen.
 
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