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NJ Fish and Game survey. Keep or ban deer drives?

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#43 ·
deergetter said:
Ban them pay backs are tough
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what are you 12yro. The funny thing is most of the people against drives have no real reason besides they don't like them. Other than that the excuses they use: "they screwed up my hunt","I scouted all season"(so did the clubs), "not on state land" ( drivers pay for it just like you and I). You guys are about as logical as the libtards going after everything they don't like. The " I don't like it , so you shouldn't do it either" mentality is why we are where we are with guns, trapping, and all the other stupid hunting laws. We shouldn't try to take anything from hunting, we should stick together so we are one unified organization. Remember United We Stand Divided we Fall.


So get over yourselves and act like Men and Women, not some little kid who bitches because they aren't getting their way
 
#47 ·
buckfever1974 said:
I don't understand why putting the drives off until either the end of buck week or until permit season is that big of a deal.
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Simple. There is no way to enforce it. Period.
Plus you are restricting someone else's time. Key word "restriction".
If you don't like drives don't hunt during the 6 day. Hunt early Mzl. I hunt both.
 
#48 ·
daktari said:
Simple. There is no way to enforce it. Period.
Plus you are restricting someone else's time. Key word "restriction".
If you don't like drives don't hunt during the 6 day. Hunt early Mzl. I hunt both.
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How about have a few WMAs that allow driving and the rest of the WMA's no driving allowed. That way if you prefer to drive you can and for the guys that prefer to stand hunt they can without being trampled over by the Army of Orange.
 
#49 ·
Why do the clubs who claim they have been driving for years need to spray paint trees in the WMA to guide their way on a drive? If they have been doing this for years, they should know the woods like the back of their hand. No need to graffiti their way thru. Just as bad as the scumbag dumping paint in a pond.
 
#50 ·
Drives screw as many people as they help, especially on state land. I say no drives on Monday and Saturday of 6 day firearm for starters... Just a few rules to level the playing field. First deer I ever killed was on a drive on state land, so they do have there place.
 
#52 ·
Half the deer killed buck season are coming from a person or persons who jumped/drive them! Whats the difference? Everyone here who has gotten a deer has gotten one that was sneaking away from another human.Deer drives are a main part of deer hunting like it or not, I like sitting and letting others do the driving for me, weather they know it or not.
 
#55 ·
It is impossible to enforce. Especially on public land.
Most of the zones have numerous days on which to hunt with no encumberances (deer drives)what-so-ever. If you don't like drives you should consider hunting on those days.
6 days out of the year (more like 2-3 days) Hunting clubs or groups of like minded people push deer around to give others the opportunity to shoot a deer.
If you don't like driving, join or secure private land. Its that simple.
When a pushed deer comes past you don't shoot it, if you feel it's not fair chase.
Can anyone on this thread enlightened me on how to enforce, not restrict, enforce someone not to drive.
IMHO There are enough useless restrictions all around you, banning deer drives would be just one more.
 
#56 ·
Stevo said:
Deer Drives will never be banned. It is the most efficient way of killing large numbers of Deer. Exactly what F&W wants.

Back when I was younger and did drive Deer, State Park and F&W officers would ask our club to drive the no hunting section of Allaire without guns to push the Deer across Hurly Pond road to our standers.

Deer Drives and Clubs are a tradition in NJ. Carhart bibs and old Fox side by sides. Pick ups with their beds loaded with Orange hats. After the hunt feasts at the clubhouse with the old tymers telling hunting stories at the table to the kids.

Todays Techno hunters have no clue. They have a camera on every trail, little machines to stop em from smelling, scents and bait piles to bring em down the trail, while they sit in a tree texting on their smart phone to Facebook. Then a Club drives the area they are hunting and out comes the phone and an instant "Damn drivers screwed up my hunt" post on NJH.

Whatever method you use to hunt is OK with me. But bashing ones method for your own (most complainers never even tried driving deer) is ridiculous.
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amen stevo , we should not fight amongst ourselves,, if you dont like drives dont do them, dont like baiting dont do it, dont like crossbows dont use one!! to each his own as long as done legally and safely.
 
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#57 ·
buckfever1974 said:
I don't understand why putting the drives off until either the end of buck week or until permit season is that big of a deal.
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i dont understand why you cant learn to deal with a group doing drives, scout the pressure , just like anything else ! and if my drive pushes a deer your way please let it walk after all its a drive that moved it your way.
 
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#58 ·
I've participated in deer drives. Deer drives have their place. I've never done drives at the beginning of any season. It's a crowded state with crowded land so things are going to be tough all over.

Having said that, is there any problem with me standing in front of you come trout season at 7:55 am after you have found a spot. Clearly, it's a public spot but I am referring to the the "sportsmanship" involved in not crawling up someone's rear end in order to get into the same drift. There are reasons that a lot of people prefer to bow hunt and this is one of them. So why is it, come gun season, it's cool to go trouncing through the woods with a bunch of guys having just walked out of the diner stinking of cigarettes, gasoline and their own stench and assume that the deer in the area are just as likely to come back. I wouldn't screw another fisherman over, set up a stand next to some other guy nor trounce an area I know is likely to have guys set up in it.

Because of the fact that it is "legal" to do doesn't make it "sportsman-like" to the other guys in the woods. Let me take a spinner and start casting over the fly fishing guys because it's legal. Let me take a spinner, find a crowded hole and start casting over everyone with bait at 8:01 AM in a couple weeks because it is legal.

What is the worst thing that couple happen by waiting until later in the week or waiting until permit season? I am not asking about your "rights" as a hunter because "rights" change as the law changes. You have the right to bow hunt and not get shot at by gun hunters during bow season. What would be wrong with organized drives like we are talking about in terms of size being put off beyond opening day and possibly Saturday when the greatest # of hunters are expected to be on-stand?
 
#60 ·
ALLMANN1.....Of all the answers to the thread,I like yours the best.We never sat in trees years ago.I have stalked deer and I belong to a club that drives for deer.I invie you to join a County Chapter of the Federation..I guarantee you won't be sorry.
 
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