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it really is amazing what kinda crap politicians pull
To be honest with you JD, I'm not nearly as fascinated with what a bunch of @$$Holes the politicians are as I am with how the general public just takes these bastards word at face value like it came from God himself. I already KNOW that the politicians suck, whats the ignorant publics excuse? A man once said to me "who's the real idiot, the venomous snake, or the man who stands next to the venomous snake?"
 
2X per year for to qualify with the use of force training as well is for us. I think if yourselfers of sound mind & body with no negative background & with bi annual or annual training one should be allowed to carry to protect yourself & family & those of a 3rd party. But this NJ & it will never happen
 
You are absolutely right... and I'm honestly scared that there are more blind sheep voting these days than people with half their marbles left intact. Like where the hell do these people come from and how do you make sure you and your family don't become like them? [lol]
 
I think if yourselfers of sound mind & body with no negative background & with bi annual or annual training one should be allowed to carry to protect yourself & family & those of a 3rd party.
What other right requires training?

40+ states allow CCW with minimal if any training requirement. No problems. What makes you think NJ residents need training more than people from other states?
 
" I dont need a document or another man to explain to me that I have the right to defend my gift of life. I am a free man Dont Tread On Me. The 2nd Amendment is my concealed weapons permit....PERIOD "
 
Asswipe bloodtrails when you pay taxes in nj then speak. Nj will never allow ccw but if they somehow did allow it I'm sure it would be some sort of training & requirement and that was my point . Now if your so damn worry about nj why don't you come and fight for ccw here
 
Asswipe bloodtrails when you pay taxes in nj then speak. Nj will never allow ccw but if they somehow did allow it I'm sure it would be some sort of training & requirement and that was my point . Now if your so damn worry about nj why don't you come and fight for ccw here

wow...
 
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" I dont need a document or another man to explain to me that I have the right to defend my gift of life. I am a free man Dont Tread On Me. The 2nd Amendment is my concealed weapons permit....PERIOD "
I agree.

Now, try that argument in today's environment.

If agreeing to training increases our chance of "shall issue" from 0% to 3%, what is there to lose? We can take a play from the anti book and use "incrementalism" to creep toward the ultimate goal.
 
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