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#21 ·
You have to get a NJ pistol permit and then have the gun transfered from a gun shop in Kansas to a shop in NJ and pick it up with a permit for it to be legal.
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Wrong.

You can not own or transport a handgun in Nj without having a pistol permit they will lock you ass up in a second!
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Wrong again.

The right way to do it is to have an FFL Dealer from the other state ship it to a FFL Dealer here, and apply for a pistol permit here in nj , dealer will charge a transfer fee and shipping, I had to do it that way with a pistol from my uncle in Florida that past.
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More incorrect information

You can possess it in your home but that's about it. You can not legally transport it, you can not use it for self defense in your home and if you do - you will be charged with illegal possession of a hand gun. Transporting it into NJ from another state is also an issue. To be proper, FFL to FFL transfer is the way to go. Sorry, welcome to NJ.
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Again, wrong.

A pistol permit is required to purchase and/or transfer ownership of (even temporarily) a handgun in NJ. If you read the form, it is also a voluntary form of registration. You MUST also have a Firearms Identification Card (FID) before you can apply for a pistol purchase permit. If you have a firearm, and do not have a FID card, you are deemed to be unqualified to posses such, regardless of the many opinions you will hear on the internet regarding this topic.
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Bad information again.

The gun is legally you're mothers. Two ways you can legally own it. First is you apply for a pistol permit and purchase it or have it transferred legally to you via the permit. Second she wills it to you and you legally acquire it via the will upon her death. You're choice. Wanted to add the following. If the gun was transported into NJ from another state it's illegally in this state. Needs to be done FFL to FFL to document the transfer to another state.
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Is the incorrect information ever going to stop?

I may be wrong but no state recognizes a "gifted" handgun. All states require paperwork for a handgun so you either legally transfer it via the states documentation process or it's willed to you upon a death. The way you state the gun was acquired it would be illegal in any state. Someone needs to legally own it, and it's neither you or you're dad at this point so it can't be trnasfered or willed legally.
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Yes, you are wrong.

Please, stop guessing...
 
#23 ·
Yes, you are wrong.

Please, stop guessing...
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With all due respect. Telling people they are wrong without stating what you believe to be correct is not helping. Better to say nothing. If you say someone is wrong you should state where they are wrong and what you believe to be correct and why you believe it to be correct. If you can't do that then don't openly state someone is wrong.

Listen to bloodtrails from all his past post he knows his s$%# especially when it comes to gun laws in nj.
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Really...[spy] So he's a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. Well then I 'll stay out of any post where he states his opinions to be fact...[eyeroll]
 
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#24 ·
I was in the same situation, gifted a gun from my grandmother. went to basking ridge PD to get permit, and went through with it. When I went to pick up my permit I asked the officer what the process was as I already have the gun. He told me that I don't need a permit for that.
 
#25 ·
after a quick google search I found that in kansas a permit to buy a handgun is not needed...in Pa. a parent may gift a handgun to thier 21 yr old child..
my advice when you move to NJ, apply for the FID and Purchase Permit then have the HG sent to you via an FFL just to C.Y.A,,plus you need an FID anyway to buy ammo that can be used in a HG in nj....nj limits when and how you transport firearms so learn the laws here...in nj anyone that inherits a gun "IF" its listed on a will, has to obtain fid or pp...
 
#26 ·
First off let me state the only reason I'm replying to this thread is it interests me as I was willed a handgun. I was told by my local PD that I had 180 days to either sell it or apply for a PP and transfer it to my name. A lawyer told me the same thing. I was also told there is no such thing as a legally "gifted" handgun, at least not in NJ.

That being said I wonder if jon55nj was given the correct info from his PD.

after a quick google search I found that in kansas a permit to buy a handgun is not needed...in Pa. a parent may gift a handgun to thier 21 yr old child..
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My question here is a permit may not be required in Kansas but what about the paperwork to legally purchase and own, or is like buying furniture? Same for PA on a "gifted" handgun. Does simple paperwork need to be filled out to show the transfer of ownership.
 
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Telling people they are wrong without stating what you believe to be correct is not helping.  Better to say nothing. 
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Please read the thread again, top to bottom. Please note the VERY FIRST REPLY, where bloodtrails gives the correct information. Where he states what he believes to be correct. Do you see it?

Afterwards, a bunch of people jump in with all sorts of incorrect advice. Please note in the original post where the author plainly says he's in possession of the handgun that was bought in another state (Kansas). Then he receives advice to ship the gun from Kansas to NJ using FFL.

Bloodtrails doesn't need to explain in detail why the other statements are false. They contradict what he said and they contradict the facts, obviously and plainly to anyone who bothers to read.
 
#30 ·
I too would like to point out Bloodtrails as a reliable source for this info.... I do not know him personally nor do i know what his qualifications are but his information is consistent and anything I have ever followed up on that he said has checked out.

The big problem in NJ, aside from the crazy laws regarding guns, is that everyone interprets things differently..... this means both you and I as well as each individual police department. One PD can tell you something and then you ask in another city and get a completely different answer. For civilian interpretations, you need look no further than this very thread..

Bottom line, don't rely on others for your information... Look up the laws yourself, call the state police directly for any clarification you need and if you think there could be any question to the interpretation of what you are trying to do, carry along a printout/copy of the law with you for those that might believe differently (LEO's included)
 
#31 ·
SO DAMN MANY CONFLICTING OPINIONS IT'S A WONDER HOW IN THE HELL YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN JERSEY. HERE'S MY 2 CENTS:
THE GUN DOES NOT REQUIRE REGISTRATION. YOU ARE LEGAL WITH IT HERE IN JERSEY. NO PERMITS ARE REQUIRED. YOU CAN TRANSPORT TO AND FROM A RANGE KEEPING THE PISTOL IN A LOCKED CASE, IN THE TRUNK AND WITH THE AMMO SEPARATE. THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL LAW THE "McCLURE-VOLKMER ACT" OF 1986 WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO TRANSPORT FIREARMS BOTH WITHIN STATE AND FROM HERE TO TIMBUCKTWO IF YOU SO DESIRE. I SHOOT AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH IN PA. AND TRANSPORT TO AND FROM THE RANGE. ALL PERFECTLY LEGAL. HOPE THIS CLEARS THE AIR. ANYONE DISPUTE THIS?
 
#32 ·
Black Bellamy...Why are you speaking for Bloodtrails. He's a big boy I'm sure he can speak for himself and I'm not here to argue like a child. Just trying to contribute by answering as best as I can based on experience, and asking intelligent questions where I feel a response leaves something missing.

Pistol Packer and yourself really know how to contribute...[eyeroll]

I'm on this thread because I've had actual dealings with this topic. Did you? This is one of the problems on this site, people with nothing constructive to add talking crap.
 
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TINCANJAKE, SORRY, I FORGOT TO SAY "WELCOME ABOARD." I TOTALLY GOT DISTRACTED BY MOST OF THE GUYS GIVING YOU THERE ADVICE. YES, I DID GIVE MY 2 CENTS. ONE LAST THING, GET YOURSELF A FIREARMS ID CARD. APPLY AT YOUR LOCAL PD. YOU'LL NEED IT TO PURCHASE AMMO, A SHOTGUN, RIFLE, ETC. GOOD LUCK AND AGAIN "WELCOME ABOARD."
PS: JUST CURIOUS, YOU HAVE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT FROM KANSAS? MY WIFE AND I HAVE THE CCW FROM FLORIDA AND WE CAN CARRY CONCEALED IN KANSAS. WE TRAVEL FROM HERE TO FLORIDA A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR AND WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THEM.
 
#34 ·
I had handguns I purchased legally in California when i was in Marines. When I moved back to NJ I went to local P.D. and spoke with family Friend. The LT in charge of the firearms permits and also a hunter and avid shooter. He informed that if they were purchased legally in the state I moved from then they are legal in NJ no registration required. Handgun permit in NJ is for purchase in NJ. No mandatory handgun or any gun registration is required.
 
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Thanks for the welcome PistolPacker. No, I never got a concealed carry from KS but knew several people who did. From what I can tell, it is much easier to get there than NJ. Thanks for the info about buying ammo. Many use acronyms I'm not familiar with, didnt realize the Firearms Id card was separate from the purchase permit, which was the only thing I could find info on. This is why I was specifically asking if the ID card was necessary to use the pistol. To answer other questions, yes in KS (not sure if it has changed) you didn't need a permit to buy guns or ammo. Just a DL and of age. When my mother bought the pistol in question from the dealer she did have to fill out paperwork to take ownership. They also did the ballistic fingerprinting thing, gun came with the paperwork for this. She bought it before and then gave it to me on my birthday. There was no "official" transfer of ownership there, just here ya go. Hope that clears things up
 
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With all due respect. Telling people they are wrong without stating what you believe to be correct is not helping. Better to say nothing. If you say someone is wrong you should state where they are wrong and what you believe to be correct and why you believe it to be correct. If you can't do that then don't openly state someone is wrong.
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Mikec,

Absolutely nothing you stated in this thread is true. I wouldn't know where to start.
 
#37 ·
Well no answer to my question. The very fact that it is so complicated, and changes from state to state seems to me a complete mess. The Right for American citizens to bear arms as per the Constitution seems so very clear. The founders point was in case the great American experiment failed and the government became what it is today. Unfortunately a day late and a dollar short as they say.

I still don't know if my WWII Marine South Pacific combat Veteran father can hand me down this pistol.

Effing pisses me off, disrespect to no end.

T
 
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