2009-10 deer season harvest totals compared to 2008-09

muzzyman · May 24, 2010

stats from njf&g website:

FALL BOW - 862 more deer harvested in 2009-10 than the previous year.

PERMIT BOW - 171 LESS deer harvested in 2009-10 than in previous year.

WINTER BOW - 417 more deer harvested in 2009-10 than the previous year

TOTAL ARCHERY HARVEST - there was a grand total of 1108 more deer harvested with archery equipment in 2009-10 than in 2008-09. another interesting stat is that the total deer harvest is down 476 deer from the 2008-09 season. so much for the myth that the introduction of crossbows would destroy the deer herd.

Excalibur · May 24, 2010

So where are all the extra millions of deer that were supposed to be slaughtered by crossbows?????????????
[rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl]

Drop Tine · May 24, 2010

I think yous all are your own worst enemy at this point [sad], it's like your just always looking to throw another long on a smoldering fire [confused][down]

For gods sake already let it go and just get over it people, both sides of this pointless debate are making total fool of all of us already [wallmad]

Excalibur · May 24, 2010

Oh no...sorry...this is well deserved for those cried and cried and cried

briarpatch · May 24, 2010

Paul...was just looking at the same charts...

Fall bow 2008/09 - 13299
fall bow 2009/10 - 14161

difference +862

permit bow 2008/09 - 6089
permit bow 2009/10 - 6852

difference +763

winter bow 2008/09 - 1629
winter bow 2009/10 - 689

difference -940

the overall net difference was 685....unless I'm missing something? what did I leave out?

Duckmastor2 · May 24, 2010

Go back and check the numbers again. There was definately a problem with zone 29s permit shotgun kill (22). I emailed them and they said there was formatting problem and the 22 kill was for youth day and 341 deer were taken for permit shotgun. They said the problem is now fixed, but I havent checked yet and I dont know if it effected the bow numbers or not.

Excalibur · May 24, 2010

now that we can hopefully all agree that crossbows did NOT have a serious impact on the number of deer taken this season, and we can all just go back to being just hunters

briarpatch · May 24, 2010

Hopefully, we can go back to just being hunters and work together to get the 150' rule passed.

sorry to hijack the thread

Excalibur · May 24, 2010

BRIAR...[up]

Drop Tine · May 24, 2010

Hopefully, we can go back to just being hunters and work together to get the 150' rule passed.

AMEN Brother [up]

Jakesbeard · May 24, 2010

Those numbers are practicly meaningless (Unless of course you DO want to throw another log on the fire which seems to be the way some here work).
1- No seperation of bucks to does.
2- No seperation of Bows, Compoundbows or Crossguns per DMZ.
3- First year of intro during a ressesion how many DID run out and buy a crossgun?
4- One year does not a TREND make and as stated it is a 3 year TREND of a buck harvest or over all harvest that WILL cause a DMZ shift ;as noted over all harvest DOWN Bow harvest UP the beginning of a trend -PROBABLY.
When it happens crossgunners will say "Well we are all bow hunters now so you guys have to take the shorter season along with us.
Some jerk will do the crossbow equivalent of smoking one cigeret and anounce that he didn't get canser so all the "Wory" is for nothing. Oh wait someone just did.

briarpatch · May 24, 2010

I need to adjust the numbers from before...apparently...the early numbers on NJ F&G were incorrect...this is what they are as of 6:30

Fall bow 2008/09 - 13299
fall bow 2009/10 - 14161

difference +862

permit bow 2008/09 - 6089
permit bow 2009/10 - 6852

difference +763

winter bow 2008/09 - 1629
winter bow 2009/10 - 2046

difference +417

net overall difference = +2042

This represents a 9.7% increase in archery harvest. JB does indeed have a point...if the data's not broken down, it's nearly impossible to draw any conclusions based on it. Also not broken out are the Sunday harvest totals, so the impact of those additional days can't be accounted for in these figures.

One thing that is imprtant to note, however, is the fact that the 6-day firearm totals are up 3.5% from the previous year. Good sign, based on the increased archery harvest?

maximus · May 24, 2010

I think yous all are your own worst enemy at this point , it's like your just always looking to throw another long on a smoldering fire

Sure does

JB does indeed have a point...if the data's not broken down, it's nearly impossible to draw any conclusions based on it. Also not broken out are the Sunday harvest totals, so the impact of those additional days can't be accounted for in these figures.

Very true,my question is why always a discrepency in numbers,you'd think F&G would have this down by now.

As for the impact,well I guess you xbow guys suck at hunting in general [rofl]j/k otherwise the numbers would be higher

Duckmastor2 · May 25, 2010

Very true,my question is why always a discrepency in numbers,you'd think F&G would have this down by now.

They told me that there was a formatting issue when they put the document on the web that caused the initial problem. The email exchange I had is in my work in bin. I'll post tomorrow.

briarpatch · May 25, 2010

When I first looked at them, they looked wierd to me. Am glad they corrected them in time for me to correct my post.

Duckmastor2 · May 25, 2010

This represents a 9.7% increase in archery harvest. if the data's not broken down, it's nearly impossible to draw any conclusions based on it. Also not broken out are the Sunday harvest totals, so the impact of those additional days can't be accounted for in these figures.

This is a good point. Although I believe that Crossbows did have an impact on the increased totals, my belief means nothing. We need a breakdown. The question is, will the Division provide it?

briarpatch · May 25, 2010

The raw data's available....it's just a question as to whether or not F&G took the time to record all the details....if they did not, then to go back and do it now would be a pretty significant task. I'm not bashing F&G, but I'd think any decisions regarding real management of the herd would involve those details. It's not always about raw numbers. Herd management involves herd make-up....at least in my uneducated opinion.

11pointer · May 25, 2010

no one ever said millions of deer would be killed because most smart people here "you excluded" know there arent that many deer in nj[eyeroll]

you try to make a point by showing the numbers increased? your some socket rientist[rofl]

Excalibur · May 25, 2010

no one ever said millions of deer would be killed because most smart people here "you excluded" know there arent that many deer in nj

so...you are trying to say that I was serious about when I used the word millions....ok...well others probably didn't..

no big impact is what came out of the stats

11pointer · May 25, 2010

if you ask me you cant tell what a impact is in 1 yr talk to me in 3 yrs when bow season is shortened

2009-10 deer season harvest totals compared to 2008-09

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