fire, some others have mentioned lowes and troy built i bought one at lowes in butler about 5 years ago with a briggs. the honda must be a higher xl model before its good or better. the one i bought was later in the season after the early fall push. it was a customer return for 250.00 off the price with all the warrantes in tact. there was a problem keeping it running and the answer to the problem was to use mid or hi test gas only no regular. the model i bought had the wireing harness and break lights 27 ton vert and horiz. why didnt i buy this sooner is what i said to myself the first time i used it and you can realy knock the crap out with a pile of logs with it. bob