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Hey guys, I am looking to move up from my old 16 ga to a 12, but I am not sure what kind of gun will be best. Does anyone know anything about Stoeger? The prices are great ($485 for a semi-auto, $350 for dbl barrel) but I have never known anyone that had one and I do not want to buy crap just because the price is attractive..
 

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i have heard stoegers are excellent! i have also heard that the prices are unbeatable. my friend that i hunt with in whittingham has one and hes always bragging about how great it is! i have a double barrel and my dad has a semi auto. some good things about semi autos is the fast ejectiion. some of the bads things are that most of them are heavier than most guns and most of them kick like a b [no swearing please] turd. my double barrel is great! it is light and it doesnt have a kick. the only advantage ove a semi auto is that the sight plain is a little bit harder to aim with.
 

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I was always pretty attracted to the stoeger guns myself, however I ended up going with the Spartan O/U. I like it very much, they are made by baikal, a russian gun manufacturer, and sold in the US by Remington. Its not pretty or fancy but it shoots very nicely and is very solid and so far completely reliable. $500 for brand new over/under. http://spartangunworks.com/overunder.htm

Im actually pretty confident in both the spartan and the stoeger. [up]either way
 

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Thanks guys..I have no problem with my old 16 gauge, even with 6 & 4 shot, so I think the 12 is the way to go. It is not like I will be shooting slugs.. I have shot my bf's 12 ga Mossberg 835 and I don't have a problem with the kick, it's the length of pull since it's a pump.. I love my sxs tho..so I might go with the Stoeger dbl barrel since most of you guys think highly of them. Thanks again! :)
 

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I have the Stoeger 2000 semi auto and it works like a dream. I looked at their O/U's but didn't really like them. If you are interested in an enexpensive O/U you may want to look at Remington's Spartan Arms. They are imported (Russia??) but are fairly decent. Probably the best inexpensive O/U you will find.
 

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Carla, I am looking at the Stoeger 12/20 combo. It comes with 2 sets of barrels. 1 set of 20 guage and the other is 12 guage. It also comes with screw in chokes. For $500 bucks you really can't go wrong for basicly 2 guns.
 

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Remington 1187 is tough to beat.I'd go look and handle a bunch of guns before making a decision.
I've got a camo 12 ga Browning BPS pump for sale in the classifieds.
 

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I am definitly going to keep looking around..I just saw the Stoegers and they seem really nice, especially since I have a preference to the break action you get with the s x s since that's what I have always shot with.. but I have also looked at Remington 870, Winchester 1300, and a few others. I need the youth size for the pump action tho, the length of pull is too long for me on most full sized guns
 

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Browning makes an auto 5! my dad has it and it is great! you should look into getting a browning too. [up]
 

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The only Stoeger that I know anything about is the model 2000. It's internals, all of the action components, are actually the same as a Benelli 3" semi-auto. This is definitely a huge plus. Other than that, the biggest thing with any gun is the fit. If it doesn't fit you, it will not perform well, unless you have it modified by a gunsmith.

For a high quality alternative, look at the Mossberg 500. Low cost and extremely reliable.

David
 

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The Stoeger 2000 although a reliable,value priced gun, uses a similar inertia system by Benelli but it is not the same as a Benelli.
No way a $400 gun is the same as a $1300 Benelli SBE.
I shoot a Benelli SBE and that is clearly the finest semi auto shotgun made.
 

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Browning-I went into a small sports shop today & they told me about something called a Tristar...Benelli sold them the concept of the 390 semi-auto (i think that was the model...) and Tristart began making them using benelli parts. The guns run $500-600 depending on barrel, sights, etc. Have you heard of that? Do you think it would be worth checking out?
 
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