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I was shooting 52# and mine did the same thing..I have the same arrows and 100 grain points..I switched to carbon express weight forward arrows and it never happened again.
Unbelievable drop in arrows . . .
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The distance between the sight pins on my bow at 58# is about 3/32 of an inch between 20yd and 30yd and 3/16" between the 30 and 40 pins and a little more between the 40 and 50 pins. Anything under 20 yards the 20 pin is fine. The conclusion is my arrows start to signifigantly lose energy after 30yds.
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Sounds like you need to go to a reputable bow shop and have them look at your setup. You may need some tweaking on it and definitely shoot lighter tips. FWIW I'm shooting 28" arrows nock to insert and I have a 29" draw so your arrows may be longer than needed and lightening them up will help you on speed as I'm sure you have very little kinetic energy with your setup.
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No disagreement here but, Ms. G is talking about shooting tight groups at 18 and dropping 4" at 20 yds. Think about it. A 4" drop from a 18 to 20 yd shot, from a physics standpoint is virtually impossible. It's only six feet! Unless the arrows are 500 grains, I can't see how a 4" drop would occur from a 35# bow.[confused] If I calculated right, your bow would only be shooting about 46 feet per second!
My 2 cents (for what it's worth) is that it's not your bow, arrows or tips; it's your form. My one son shoots a Matthews Genesis. At 30# it shoots 137 fps with a 30" 500 grain arrow. It does not drop 4" even over a 5 yd (15 ft) span.
What made me think about this was my own foils. I've been practicing with broadheads at 25-30 yds. My arrows have been touching fairly consistently. Around dusk, it's tough for me to see the bullseye. I put out a 9" paperplate with a red bull in it to see better. My first 8 shots I missed the whole plate!![eek] Something in my form, release, follow through, stance,???changed. After a while, I relaxed, got in the zone and was back on track; but it was a simple visual change that messed me up. Again, just an opinion.
For one, DEFINITELY take it to a real shop (sorry Ramsey's). They will tell you if your using the right arrows, weight, etc. Second, beef up them arms! There's not much difference between 35 and 45#'s and you'll be able to expand your abilities just a little more! Good Luck![up]
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I think your heads are too heavy......
I could be wrong .but i shoot 75 grain muzzys and those things fly tight out to 30 yards(no lie).
I dont think it would be the arrows, but i shoot carbon express, thre not to expensive either.
Where are you located, because the arrows are only rated up to 40 pound and i am going to go past that this year, i grew ALOT,? and they need a good home
I could be wrong .but i shoot 75 grain muzzys and those things fly tight out to 30 yards(no lie).
I dont think it would be the arrows, but i shoot carbon express, thre not to expensive either.
Where are you located, because the arrows are only rated up to 40 pound and i am going to go past that this year, i grew ALOT,? and they need a good home
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That's a good idea. I had forgotten until you mentioned it, but that is what I did when my sons were young enough to shoot a similar bow.
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The general concensus seems to be to go to a pro shop.
I have always set up my own bow but as an old dog I still use aluminum arrows. But the way I read the Easton chart and from the amount of information you give about your bow and arrows it looks like you should not be using Axis arrows. You should be using Epic Carbons. Your Arrow shaft lenght is from the insert(tip removed) to the base of the nock(shaft side). Another thing is most youth bows are only rated up to a 28" draw lenght, most not all. Is this a factor? Here's a link to Easton's sizing chart. It's not a bad idea to learn to set up and size your own equipment in the event you have a problem in the field. Hope this helps a little, good luck.
http://www.eastonarchery.com/products/selection
I have always set up my own bow but as an old dog I still use aluminum arrows. But the way I read the Easton chart and from the amount of information you give about your bow and arrows it looks like you should not be using Axis arrows. You should be using Epic Carbons. Your Arrow shaft lenght is from the insert(tip removed) to the base of the nock(shaft side). Another thing is most youth bows are only rated up to a 28" draw lenght, most not all. Is this a factor? Here's a link to Easton's sizing chart. It's not a bad idea to learn to set up and size your own equipment in the event you have a problem in the field. Hope this helps a little, good luck.
http://www.eastonarchery.com/products/selection
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Ms grit bases on what you are saying I think it would be best to set your pins at 10 and 20. Reason being that if you are getting that much drop you may be quite high using the 15 yard pin if the deer comes in at 10 yards or less. Of all of the deer that I have shot with the bow the mean has been about 18-22 yards. I would suggest a little bit of weight training and try to shoot more and get that bow up to 40lbs. It may just be time for a new string. How old is the bow? When was the last time the string was changed? Has the bow been exposed to heat? (this causes strings to stretch) Try what works for you I just wouldn't want to see you miss a bruiser up close. If the deer comes in at 15 yards you can center the 10 and 20 yard pin on the deer.
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One more thing shoot practice shooting from a treestand. If you hunt from a treestand you should practice from a treestand. It really makes a difference.
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Based on the Easton Hunting Arrow Chart
Single Cam
100 grain tip
35# draw weight
27" arrow length
Only Epic Carbons come up as suitable. Their weight is listed as 6.4gr. in.. Even if you are using the lightest Axis Arrow shaft they are listed as 8.1gr. in..
Single Cam
100 grain tip
35# draw weight
27" arrow length
Only Epic Carbons come up as suitable. Their weight is listed as 6.4gr. in.. Even if you are using the lightest Axis Arrow shaft they are listed as 8.1gr. in..
This seems so simple-Just keep your shots within 18 yds.!!!If your groups are that tight up to that distance,DON'T CHANGE A THING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
iF your building your barrier for standing shots with bait like I have read in previous posts,build it at 15 yards and wait for the proper angle-you'll zip right thru with no problems.Build it,they will come!
iF your building your barrier for standing shots with bait like I have read in previous posts,build it at 15 yards and wait for the proper angle-you'll zip right thru with no problems.Build it,they will come!
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When was the last time you checked the draw weight on the bow? It might have changed. If it were me I'd turn the limb bolts one turn each and re-site. Also look into those arrows. Good Luck to you.
Wow everyone, alot to think about and injest. Thanks so much.
Ok, so, my arrows without the tip or knock measure exactly 27 inches and they were set up professionally, looked up in the book and all. I just didn't pay enough attention to all of the measurements and weights, nor did I write anything down as I probably should have.
The string on the bow was put on new and everything was set up right before I took the archery test, March/Aprilsish 08.
I am practicing from level ground now, but some of you may remember that I do also practice from my roof shed, which I will start when I put the broadheads back on to practice with, which will be sometime after August 15th.
I am very hesitant to any major changes, like a different bow, as I get set with one thing and very comfortable with it. Putting a 3 pin site on it instead of the 1 pin site that I used last year was un-nerving for me because I end up feeling like I will ultimately have to start all over from the beginning again.
Ok, so, my arrows without the tip or knock measure exactly 27 inches and they were set up professionally, looked up in the book and all. I just didn't pay enough attention to all of the measurements and weights, nor did I write anything down as I probably should have.
The string on the bow was put on new and everything was set up right before I took the archery test, March/Aprilsish 08.
I am practicing from level ground now, but some of you may remember that I do also practice from my roof shed, which I will start when I put the broadheads back on to practice with, which will be sometime after August 15th.
I am very hesitant to any major changes, like a different bow, as I get set with one thing and very comfortable with it. Putting a 3 pin site on it instead of the 1 pin site that I used last year was un-nerving for me because I end up feeling like I will ultimately have to start all over from the beginning again.
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If you're arrows are spined right and the lenght is correct, at 35 pounds I would not shoot more than 20 yards! So 1 pin zeroed at 20 yards should be sufficient. Then shoot and see if and how high you are at 10 and 15 yards, I doubt it will be much difference, then with your one pin see how far you can shoot by placing your pin on the deer's back and dropping smack into the middle. I doubt you'll be more than 25 yards, the absolute fartest you could take a shot! Good luck
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