A few weeks back i had posted a thread titled "I dont know if i can" Well after playing and replaying a youth hunt video on youtube. (THANX MS GRIT!) i became very comfy with the idea of actually taking a shot. I took a vacation nov.30th-dec.10th figuring it gives my plenty of time to get atleast 1 deer,(have permits for both) being there were quite a few around mid nov. Well i hunted all 3 days of permit shotgun and all 6 of deer wk and did not see or hear any deer! I guess theres always next year....