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The passing of this bill would create "approved" and "Non-approved" species lists. Basically any non-native species that is considered capable of causing harm to the people or the ecosystem of the U.S. would be banned from being imported or transported across state lines. This is just another way for the government to control our hobbies and passions. Please do not think that this doesnt apply to you, do you own a bird, snake, lizard, hampster, spider, or any other animal then this could affect YOU.


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The passing of this bill would create "approved" and "Non-approved" species lists.
Ok....if the government is not allowed to control invasive species..then who is?

I am not taking sides on this....but it is clear that your position is not the only here...correct? I'd like to hear the other side as well...

JC

More Snakeheads in the Deleware anyone???

 

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I think what Njbowhunter is concerned about is the exotic pets,not the species that are ending up in rivers,streams and oceans

I personally have mixed emotions on this.I don't agree with taking exotic pets from the wild,but am fine with ones that are raised by breeders for the pet trade.

My son will be very unhappy as well seeing that he has a couple lizards and a gerble himself.

I also don't agree with some of the species on the invasive species list( the nj one).The flathead catfish for example.I have caught these in Virginia.they are extremely great fighters and quite tasty.The only place I see them being a problem is in lakes and ponds,and that isn't a given. Everywhere i have caught them the ecosystem in that body of water was very healthy.

Besides they can't take care of the invasive species list laws they already have.You know ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION !!!! [rofl][rofl][rofl]
 

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I think what Njbowhunter is concerned about is the exotic pets is the exotic pets,not the species that are ending up in rivers,streams and oceans
The exotic pets ARE what is ending out in our river, streams, oceans, forests, fields, tree's and mountians.

Once again I am not on either side of this...but until someone can name the group that they believe should have the ability to deal with invasive species they don't have a reasonable plan....no plan is simply not a plan at all...

After all..who is threatened most by this legislation?...Animal dealers....not animal owners! My guess is the "anti's" in this case, (the folks most against this law), are not concerned citizens, but commercial interests who benefit the greatest from blocking this legislation, but bear little or no additional costs when tax payer funds are required to pay for cleaning up in the aftermath of problems resulting from invasive species...

Is this correct?

JC
 

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you say animal owners are not at risk? did you watch or read any of that. say your son had a pet lizard and he goes off to school, it is illegal for him to move that lizard accross state lines. if you get a new job or you have to leave the state for any reason you bird that you have had for 40 years is not allowed to make the trip with you. please lets not be shallow minded and think that this will not affect you. i agree there are some animals that need to be monitored but your parakeet is not going to get loose and populate a huge flock of killer parakeets that are going to wipe out our native populations. my ball pythons if they happened to get loose(and theyre not) would die very quickly the first time in went to freezing.
 

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you say animal owners are not at risk?
NO...I anyone can read my post and clearly see I did not that...

What I said is, the people that are most opposed to this are those that are selling these animals for financial gain. Why? Because right now they reap the financial benefits of selling these animals, yet pay none of the financial costs that result when, we as taxpayers, have to clean up the mess caused by the release of these invasive species by their customers into the waters and fields we hunt and fish...

Once again...I am happy to hear your belief on why that statement is wrong, however, the only thing I have learned so far in this thread is that the pet store owners industry is behind a rather sizable progaganda campaign to defeat this bill in hopes of protecting their profits at the cost of the average tax payer.

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Well,

Since I didn't get any response as to who really is behind this propaganda campaign, (and yes as I suspected, the majority of the information presented in the links above has little or no basis in fact and is what anyone who is knowledgeable about this proposal,regardless of whether they favored it or not, would describe as plain, outright, propaganda.)... So, I went ahead and did some research on this campaign and guess what I found...

No surprise whatsoever...who is behind it?...PIJAC

What is PIJAC one might ask...They are the Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council....AKA the Political Action Comittee of the Pet Store Industry!!

As I suspected from the begining...the primary concern of the people behind this campaign of misinformation is not the rights of you and your pets...tTheir concern is the ability to sell those pets to any who will buy them from them for a profit...regardless of whether those pets are a danger to our native plants, and animals!!

Just goes to show...whenever someone screams fire and there and is no smoke or flames...you better look around before you just start blindly jumping out of the windows.[spy]

JC
 
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