First and foremost, you old guys have all the good stuff. My father-in-law and I were sighting in his rifles yesterday since they haven't been checked in a while. Came across his 7717 yesterday and just had to play with it. He had put on a decent scope when he bought it years ago and never zeroed it in. I did NOT expect such accuracy out of this rifle(though seeing as the price has gone up several hundred dollars since he bought it I'm not surprised. In the process of sighting it in we fired two shots then adjusted the scope. I kid you not for every two shots there was only one hole at 50 yards. We have not tried out to 100 yards due to space but it is coming. Now I need to come up with 900 to get one.