i dont know what theyre talking about. where i hunt in ny, last year they drasticly reduced the #of doe tags and this year they eliminated doe tags altogeather. and this isnt just in my unit but all the surrounding units as well. i hunt in 3h and 4w but if you look on the DEC,s map , the surrounding units are the same and that covers a lot of miles. and we have always had rifle hunting. thats why i have been asking fellow hunters to show me where there is decent state land or a hunting club in sussex, warren or hunterdon counties or a club that is looking for members or a piece of land to lease.