so im a 1st year archery hunter this year, last year i went from fixed stands to climber (summit) well tonight the first night i go out i decide to climb a tree near my buddys spot being hes not hunting i get up and sit not prob all night i count the squirls tons of male cardinals and couple females so its that time some des walk in and im thinkin tonights the night first night out this is great well not so great just as i reach full draw the top part of my stand twists in the tree (why you ask) because the user of this particular stand decided to climb a tree that half way up has a bend in it so moral of the story make good choices and be safe tommorow is another day