Well heres the story. After the rain stopped I decided to go walk the holes and ledges to see if i can push something out. A couple miles later around 4 I just about gave up and headed for the truck when both of these jumped out 10 yards in front of me. I hit momma in the neck with a 3 inch slug then lunged her after she tried getting back up. The other 1 ran about 40 yards and I figured he was gone but he stopped broadside. Hell why not and pounded a slug through his chest. It wasnt until I got to him that I realized it was a him not a her. He only had a couple nubs on his head that never broke through. He still pretty young though, but its still meat in the freezer and not laying on the side of the road clubbed by a car. Both came from zone 8 off of Waterloo Valley Road in Mt Olive.