These buck are both my dads, he shot them this past year with the muzzleloader on his property in fredon. The one on the right is an 11 and the left is an 8. The first time he saw them they were fighting and he got a shot at the 11. 5 days later the 8 came walking through and now there on the wall. They were mounted in the fighting position because thats what they were doing haha. These are the two smallest bucks he has mounted out of the total 15. He mounted the 11 because out of all the big deer he has there all 8's 9's etc never shot an 11.