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I purchased some black powder for my muzzleloader.... I cannot believe they have to take either my driver's license information or NJ firearm card information. Annoying.
 

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It is not a federal law... The patriot act excludes companies like Cabela's from mailing Blackpowder and it's substitutes to the state of NJ. You can buy it right over the counter in NY without showing any I.D. In fact I bought a M/Ler a few weeks ago and they didn't require a Firearms I.D. or a drivers license and no background check. The state has cut many of the licenses that are required to sell BP in NJ. Maybe it's because we have such a high concentration of "Rags"????

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Black Powder 1lb next to a 55gal drum filled with flower can take out a house... Jersey has more people per mile so that is why they take ID. 9/11 just made them do it more, I don't mind showing mine I think all states should do that.
 

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Just as an aside....none of the Gander Mountains in New York have any powder at all. They are still wasiting on state licensing.
 

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Gentleman, please lets get the facts straight here.

Is call THE REPUBLIC OF NEW JERSEY [down]
 

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The ID for black powder purchase has always been the case. At least in the 15+ years I have been doing it. In NY and PA they have it on self serve shelves.

What pisses me off is this stupid NJ firearms ID card. It is totally redundent with the NCIS and therefore meaningless. It is just an oppertunity for municipal governments to hassle gun owners. To simply change the address is a major operation. I changed mine a few years ago... it took 3 months in my town....The police interviewed me as if I were some type of criminal; I had to supply two references and still wait till the chief decided to sign it. Then they had the number transposed so the card was no good. The typo on the number was carried over from the original town. At least they corrected that in a timely fashion.

My main point is that I have to have this stupid card, yet the dealer still hast to run a NICS check when I make a purchase. Worse yet in NJ you have to pay a fee for the instant check. NJ residents are best off going th NY or PA for rifle and shotgun purchases.
 

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If you guys are pissed that it takes three months, then stand up for yourselves. When the time of 30 working days has passed, go to the cop shop and ask where your card is. When they say the paperwork hasn't come back yet. Tell them they better have it tomorrow (politely, non-threatening). When they don't, file a writ of mandamus forcing them to act on your application. If you are not disqualified, you will get your card/pistol permits. By the way it is 45 days for non-residents. No more bitching, either stand up and be a man or wither away waiting rediculous amounts of time. The laws says 30 days!!!!!! You will have to do some paperwork, but it puts the cops in their place and they might be perturbed, but they will respect you after you have shown them you are well informed in firearms law and will not stand for any political antics. The writ costs 40 USD if I remember.
 
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