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An "ugly dog" photo-op after our day out today. Lots of woodcock around, as expected. Had fun working the dog on our club land and it will be sad to see the semi-wild pheasant season end tomorrow. 

I hear ya T. No grouse unless you drive a couple hours from here. And yet you and I know they used to be close by us. Heck, when I was a kid we used to see them in River Vale back along the Hackensack in the 60's along with copious quantities of woodcock.where have all the grouse gone
It's funny how the 11 to 12 o-clock tail (even 1 o-clock) has evolved over the years. I've got some old American Field's from the 60's that show champion Setters from the early 1900's pointing with a stance anywhere from 9:30 to 10:00. Tastes changes and the styles are bred to follow.dog pointing with a 11 to 12 o clock tail