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A New Jersey Winter Hunt? Black bears may be in the crosshair
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A NJ Winter Bear Hunt?
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Does anyone else pull their hair out at the mere fact Campbell has the so-called "last word" over this? His complete disreguard of the Fish and Game council is so frustrating to me. If he continues with ignoring the council on bears, what's next? No deer, pheasant or turkey season because the anti-hunters pressure him enough?
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BINGO! They will always win if hunters don't speak up and hold their ground! Leaf-eaters think we should all be that way, and let the animals take over.
"They will decrease their own numbers by having lack of food" from my one and only vegan friend. So I told her "oh it's better that they suffer and starve to death then, I see."
Makes no since to me. We eat what we kill, it's not "just for fun".
"They will decrease their own numbers by having lack of food" from my one and only vegan friend. So I told her "oh it's better that they suffer and starve to death then, I see."
Makes no since to me. We eat what we kill, it's not "just for fun".
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·My 12ga Remington is ready for hunt as I am[up]
I'm not even looking to hunt bear. I might give it a shot (pardon the pun) in the future, but I am so frustrated about this because banning the hunting of bear could lead to the banning of other seasons, despite what the state biologists and F&G council say. All we need is to get one of these "bear huggers" into Campbell's position and there could be an outright ban on hunting all together. I'm just so frustrated with the whole situation.
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What we need is a September bow season for bear and/or a spring bear season firearm or bow. The latter just before turkey season
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If you think it's bad now just wait until Corzine is elected.
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"an outright ban on all hunting"
Even with corzine elected, and lots of anti-pressure, do you think that is really feasible? Between all the businesses that depend on hunting and all the revenue the state takes in on lisecnses and stamps and permits, do you really think they would do that? I think before the did an "outright ban" they would just make many more laws and regs so as to discourage hunting, which is already almost happening.
I think the sportsman of this state would raise all hell if something that extreme were to happen. I'd be right there with em too.[mad]
Even with corzine elected, and lots of anti-pressure, do you think that is really feasible? Between all the businesses that depend on hunting and all the revenue the state takes in on lisecnses and stamps and permits, do you really think they would do that? I think before the did an "outright ban" they would just make many more laws and regs so as to discourage hunting, which is already almost happening.
I think the sportsman of this state would raise all hell if something that extreme were to happen. I'd be right there with em too.[mad]
Corzine has made it very clear that he will ban hunting in NJ as well as limt or eliminate the sale and distribution of firearms.
He made a statement to the effect that hunters can buy their meat from the store like everyone else.
He would also like the state to sell some of its 'assets' to balance the budget.
This does not start an end with the sale of the NJ TPK, which will only amount to a toll increase rather than a saving. He will no doubt look to the WMA's and State lands to offer developers.
He has made no pledges that he will spare the state's lands. He looks upon our state as if it is a 'distressed corporation'. We are not employees of a distressed corporation, we are taxpayers caught in the machinations of a corrupt system.
How rediculous was it for the state to allow so many developements to encroach WMA's and forrests, but it continues to allow it.
NJ : used to be the Garden State - now it is the Garden Apartment State
It will start with bear, then deer, then geese.
The firearms and tools used in the pursuit of game will be rendered obsolete within the state's borders.
Alternate means of wildlife control is nothing less than "let's find a way to eliminate hunting".
Every hunter in the State should be marching on Trenton demanding Campbell's resignation. It almost happened - but, collectively, the hunters' hearts are too big and allowed Campbell a second chance.
We will not get a second chance once it is legislated that an 'alternate means under a comprehensive plan' has been determined "effective".
The meeting tonight will send a strong message to those in attendance, however, if Corzine is elected - the bear meeting tonight will be of no consequence.
Corzine will appoint the people to get "HIS" plan executed.
The voting booth will determine the future of hunting in NJ.
Fellow NJ Sportsmen, we have a long fight ahead of us. Don't give up and don't give in.
He made a statement to the effect that hunters can buy their meat from the store like everyone else.
He would also like the state to sell some of its 'assets' to balance the budget.
This does not start an end with the sale of the NJ TPK, which will only amount to a toll increase rather than a saving. He will no doubt look to the WMA's and State lands to offer developers.
He has made no pledges that he will spare the state's lands. He looks upon our state as if it is a 'distressed corporation'. We are not employees of a distressed corporation, we are taxpayers caught in the machinations of a corrupt system.
How rediculous was it for the state to allow so many developements to encroach WMA's and forrests, but it continues to allow it.
NJ : used to be the Garden State - now it is the Garden Apartment State
It will start with bear, then deer, then geese.
The firearms and tools used in the pursuit of game will be rendered obsolete within the state's borders.
Alternate means of wildlife control is nothing less than "let's find a way to eliminate hunting".
Every hunter in the State should be marching on Trenton demanding Campbell's resignation. It almost happened - but, collectively, the hunters' hearts are too big and allowed Campbell a second chance.
We will not get a second chance once it is legislated that an 'alternate means under a comprehensive plan' has been determined "effective".
The meeting tonight will send a strong message to those in attendance, however, if Corzine is elected - the bear meeting tonight will be of no consequence.
Corzine will appoint the people to get "HIS" plan executed.
The voting booth will determine the future of hunting in NJ.
Fellow NJ Sportsmen, we have a long fight ahead of us. Don't give up and don't give in.
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·Corzine is a jerk.
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I don't think most people realize how true this is. Corzine sees the state lands as assets he can liquidate to put the state back in the black...not as assets to the taxpayers. While hunting may never be banned, if you sell off enough lands, hatcheries and other F & W properties, it will be significantly reduced, and since there is lees activity, you need fewer employees to administer the Divisions responsibilities, and no one will care if less money is coming in via hunting and fishing licenses because there will be fewer employees, less equipment and a substantially smaller budget that has to be funded...so less revenue in is no big problem.
Corzine will bring about the rapid destruction of the things we like to do as outdoors men and women in NJ...there is no debate about that.
I'm sick of people saying Corzine is a "respected businessman" and he "knows how to run a corperation." The State of NJ is not a corperation and we are not his employees. We live here, we work here and we hunt here. It's about time we took a stand against all these liberal bozos who want to ban safe and legal endeavors that we have a right to persue.
The idea of selling off state land is not only stupid, it's dangerous. I also don't think that hunters would be the only ones effected by that. Hikers, campers and out of state tourism would suffer greatly. Wildlife would be greatly effected. I wonder if the BEAR group would denounce the selling off of bear habitat to developers. Probably not.
The idea of selling off state land is not only stupid, it's dangerous. I also don't think that hunters would be the only ones effected by that. Hikers, campers and out of state tourism would suffer greatly. Wildlife would be greatly effected. I wonder if the BEAR group would denounce the selling off of bear habitat to developers. Probably not.
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I hope you are wrong, because that jack [no swearing please] will definatly get elected
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