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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:00 PM | ||
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I have a few questions....
1. do you find that you have better results by leaving the pile in one place continuously or by moving the pile around constantly to keep the deer guessing. Kinda how we use a hit and run method to stand hunting. 2. Do you feel that you would hav a better chance of shooting a good buck without the bait being there due to the fact that most deer have learned to avoid the bait until well after dark. 3. Now for those of you like myself...who dont want to bait the deer but have no real option b/c everyone else does how do you feel your season would go if you did not bait. 4. Also. I have been using a pipe method to feed the deer. How do you all think i would do if rather then have the bait say 30-70 yard off a field, if i scattered the bait in the middle of an ppen field? Or even in a hedgerow that separates two fields. Basically the deer have gotten smart enough to avoid my area at all costs during daylight although i do not hunt it often and dont pressure the deer much. Plus last year they learned to avoid my trailcam flash if placed along a trail to the bait. Only eay to get pics is to place the cam right on top of the bait. If i attempt to jump the cam furthur from the bait the bucks that are photo'd stop showig up. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:03 PM | ||
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Try mixing your bait up alittle. Did you ever try apples deer love apples .__________________ FMBA Local 57
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:10 PM | ||
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as for number 1., doesn't the idea of "keeping the deer guessing" by moving the pile defeat the purpose of baiting in the first place?
2., If you don't set up over the bait but put the bait a ways from your stand you could intercept them moving back and forth from the food source. 3. if you hunt an area where others bait regularly you can also benefit from deer movement caused by the presence of bait. __________________ Capitalist - Pro Staffer
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:10 PM | ||
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I hunt next to an apple orchard lol...
They avoid them kinda. They seem to like corn or straight deer mix. But lately the problem isnt them eating it. Its with them coming to it before dark. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:13 PM | ||
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If you have an idea where the deer are coming from, try setting along a route that they'll take going to the bait. Hopefully, you'll still have some daylight to get one.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:16 PM | ||
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tdaly...
The problem is those baiting are on an opposing property. Their property is HUUUUUUUGE. Mine is 15 little acres and the way its setup...its a transition zone. The deer only p [no swearing please] throuhg my little piece. They dont live on it. They used to travel through like crazy till this year. No matter what ive tried the deer arent coming my way until waaay after dark. Ive treied sitting right over the bait and iv tried setting the bait in "x" spot and watching for sverela weeks from 200 yards away. They just arent there during daylight and i dont know why. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:21 PM | ||
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1. I use a 250lb feeder is there all year long and is set to go off in the morning. Yet I only hunt in the afternoons.
2. I actually shoot the best bucks in the places were I don't have a feeder. 3. I know I would shoot more deer's if I wanted to. I don't see any different in my area. Any were in Hunterdom is a Deer Buffet. 4. I also have pipe gravity feeders. I find a good run and set the feeder some were between were the deers are feeding in the afternoon and my tree stand. It just gives me the opportunity to make a good shot. Like you stated those big boys are not stupid. __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:22 PM | ||
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Just some questions for you:
1) Do you have an idea where the deer are coming from? 2) Are they actively hitting your bait? 3) When you re-fill your baiting device, are you as scent-free as possible? An idea you might want to do is to move your bait further away from where they are coming. The further the better. That way, they will need to move through your property earlier to get to the bait at the same time they are currently. Also, be as scent-free as possible whenever you go near the bait; ie re-filling it. David __________________ NJ... Where fun comes to die!
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:27 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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I use Mike's deer feed mix & fresh apple.
I leave a hole 50# bag and a bunch of apples once a week in the same place. Well really two differant places about 800 yards apart so I can play the wind. It works great. This is the 1st. year I've tried baiting , and I think it's a good tool. Over the smummer I'm going to build one of those PVC pipe gravity feeders and get a trail cam. So I can see what I've been missing and what's bucks are growing into from the last season. __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:28 PM | ||
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yoda:
1. Yes i knwo exactly where they come from. 2. They go through 100 pounds in 3 days 3. Yes. Sprayed down, rubber gloves, boots etc. Same as though i were hunting. Can't push the bait any farther b/c the property isnt large enough. Im actually wondering if i should put the feeder in a nasty thicket. This way the deer can just tarvel the field edge and stay in the brush rather then cross any open woods? LOL ive run out iof idea honestly and thats why im askign you all. You hunt this state too. Im sure we all agree that the deer are no fools. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:29 PM | ||
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Drop tine i use the mix as well.
Hiwever few weeks back i put one bag of mix and one bag of whole corn out. Deer didnt even touch the mix period until that corn was gone! Go figure. Used to be the opposite. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:30 PM | ||
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Ok. It wouldn't hurt if the food was placed in a spot where they needed to "work" a bit to get it.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:33 PM | ||
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i hunt the pine in southern ocean county and baiting the deer there stinks. they are on to it and been for the last 20 years. i find if you spread corn very lightly they come to it easier however if you hunt it more than two weeks you deer come at dark:30, and besides the fack most deer you jump off the bait dont come back. i found during the past few years if you put bait down one day and hunt it the next your chances of seeing deer and shooting a decent buck are good but dont hunt it for more than a week. yeah its a pain to move around like that and when time off of wrok is limited. i also found the deer mostly come right in and dont play the wind to much. i also see lost of deer during the afternoon. anyway lets face it when we start to figure them out the figure us out faster. __________________ Take your video camera with you, make the hunt last forever.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:33 PM | ||
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I think that next year im going to use it more sporadically. Put it ou for a week or two then nothing for a week or two. The put a little more out. Maybe this way theyll view it as being a limited treat. Or mayube they'll say screw me and go to the other guys pile lol!
Might be time to try some new bait. Wonder if deer would like dogfood. LOL. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:35 PM | ||
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here we go again with the baiting debate... __________________ robsrodnreel.com will be down for a few months. if you need any rod or reel work done contact me at robsrodnreel@hotmail.com.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:36 PM | ||
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here we go again with the baiting debate... __________________ robsrodnreel.com will be down for a few months. if you need any rod or reel work done contact me at robsrodnreel@hotmail.com.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:36 PM | ||
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buckrun...its not a debate. If you read the posts youll see that im getting answers and suggestions..not arguements.
I'd like to keep it that way please. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:37 PM | ||
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Lives In Trees,
It's very customary for deer to become largely nocturnal once all the blasting begins in gun season, with the exception of the rut. Notwithstanding your frustration it sounds like you have a pretty good location and the fact that it's a transition area is not a bad thing. __________________ Capitalist - Pro Staffer
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:38 PM | ||
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Quote: I was thinking of putting out some corn to. every time I go to mikes I see it and say to myself, self you should see how the corn works .
few weeks back i put one bag of mix and one bag of whole corn out. Deer didnt even touch the mix period until that corn was gone! Thanks Lives in Trees now I have a reason to. __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:43 PM | ||
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tdaly...Your ionto sometbing in a way. They Came on and off early season. And then october they stopped altogether. Then i would say mid december they returned for a few weeks. Now...lol gone again. And im not sure there have been more then a handful of gun shots all year.
Where can i get apples this time of the year in north jersey. Mayve they would rather have that . __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:47 PM | ||
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lives in trees, if you have a hook and can find apples to bait with this time of year, i found a buck when the come to bait will go right to them. and when it super cold they hold a little better because there frozen not to much but a little. __________________ Take your video camera with you, make the hunt last forever.
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| Kris, can we have a separate Forum just for baiting? I think its time and if the guys that hate baiting don't want to be involved with this then they don't have to enter it. | ||
| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:49 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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Quote: I buy a sh*t load of them (apples) in the fall. and use them till there all got . Now they would cost to much. and from what I've seen the mature deer don't touch them only the yearlings and button bucks.At least by me when I've watched them.Where can i get apples this time of the year in north jersey. Mayve they would rather have that . __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:50 PM | ||
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lives in tress, i understand your questions, but i when it comes to baiting there is a lot tension between people on there. i for one, bait some stands and others i dont. i think deer get used to baiting and if you plan on shooting a big buck to hunt away from your bait pile. i bait to attempt to shoot does(eab) but at the sametime mature does dont seem to come into the bait during daylight hours. maybe its may area, but i think if you want to shoot a big buck, baiting doesnt help. __________________ robsrodnreel.com will be down for a few months. if you need any rod or reel work done contact me at robsrodnreel@hotmail.com.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:51 PM | ||
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| I work for a company in new jersey that does deer management.A paid sharp shooter.We shoot over timed feeders.You will have better results if you spread your bait out in a 30 foot circle.I myself don't bait on most of my lands,for the reason we only shoot mature buck 125 or better and very rearly a mature will come to bait during daylight. | ||
| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:52 PM | ||
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Cat i put this where it was designated for. It is wildlife management. I mean cmon. It doesnt take much restraint to simply not click on the thread. Am i wrong? __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:54 PM | ||
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so tomski, you do "deer managment" dont you feel really sh-tty bout yourself that you are denying real hunters the chance to manage deer? __________________ robsrodnreel.com will be down for a few months. if you need any rod or reel work done contact me at robsrodnreel@hotmail.com.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:54 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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but i think if you want to shoot a big buck, baiting doesnt help. It works for me ! I took my 2nd widest 8 point ever this year as it left my bait pile just befor 7:00am. __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:54 PM | ||
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Tomski:
These areas that your doig this at...Are they sunject to hunting or are the suburban and unhunted? Unhunted lands and hunted sections are two entirely diff. situations. __________________ Amateur's practice till they get it right. Pro's practice till they can't get it wrong.
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| Posted: 12 Feb 2006 10:59 PM | ||
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It works for me ! I took the 2nd widest 8 point this year as it left my bait pile just befor 7:00am. just to make clear, i didnt mean in all situations. in general. i dont think mature bucks are going to hit a bait pile during the day,(except rut) __________________ robsrodnreel.com will be down for a few months. if you need any rod or reel work done contact me at robsrodnreel@hotmail.com.
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