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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 1:29 PM | ||
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There is a Cuban fellow that you probably know because you all work together. Hoping is not you, but all he does is brag about all the deer's he hunt's, sorry deer's he shoots as a sharpshooter. Is sharpshooting hitting a deer from a tree stand with a scope shotgun fully rifled at 20 yards a difficult task??
We Hunters also donated more meals then that. And we do it with our own money, And we do it the right way. And I'm proud to say that I took the animal with pride. Not nocking you Tomski but I personally would not be proud of telling us what you do. Specially when some of us are working real hard to open up this places to regular hunters. Do you consider yourself a better shot with a shotgun or bow then some of us??? I don't think so. But to each his on, it is being done legally.Its just that some of us can't understand why some individuals go that route when we are trying so hard to convince the politicians that license NJ hunters can do the same thing safely. __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 1:37 PM | ||
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I have always hunted in in Pa. where you can't bait. I shot my share of deer, alot in on a 50 acre piece with a lot of white oaks. The deer come in to feed regularly in the early season, but when the acorns are gone it is a ghost town. There are plenty of deer in the area but nothing to attract them. Baiting would make a difference and get the deer off of private property. I believe that eventually it would help to even out the herd in some areas and promote better deer management. __________________ The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything.
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 2:42 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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Boy I can't say I agree with those methods, But I’ll fight for the right to hunt by any means deemed legal. But I am worried about threads like this (hunters against hunters). This is just what the anties live for. Why should they fight us if we are willing to fight each other. As long as we are willing to accuse each other of not being REAL HUNTERS. Soon he won't even be hunters at All ! While we were fighting about what’s real hunting there fighting that all hunting is real and really bad and not useful for controlling deer populations and is inhumane . So if you must argue do it with them and not each other. That’s were the real fight belongs. Paul __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 3:46 PM | ||
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| I'm getting hungry and thinking about bringing a frying pan, some backstraps and garlic over to Cats tree and get dinner cooking. He'll provide the sweet potatoes and corn.Pumpkin and apple pie for dessert. Those deer eat well. You probably have them lined up at the deli. | ||
| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 3:52 PM | ||
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I'm getting hungry and thinking about bringing a frying pan, some backstraps and garlic over to Cats tree and get dinner cooking. He'll provide the sweet potatoes and corn.Pumpkin and apple pie for dessert. Those deer eat well. You probably have them lined up at the deli. What, we don't get an invite? This is BS, BS I say!!! 
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 4:01 PM | ||
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I don't recall the paper's showing ANTI'S at any of this type of hunts. Did anybody here see any of them up there in Scoch Plains. No, and you know why because the Anti's are happy when they have the hire guns. They are so stupid that they can't figure out that deer's are still being taken. But not by hunters. They are being taken by professionals. You follow me. This is the way they think. Oh well we are keeping the hunters out, this guys are professionals.
We are the ones that should of been up there protesting the hunts. We should all be writing to the politicians, and telling them that we are just as good as this guy's. And we will be saving the tax payers of the state money by doing a better job. Then again, I'm talking to them every week face to face and is like looking at a blank face. __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 4:12 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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I don't recall the paper's showing ANTI'S at any of this type of hunts. Did anybody here see any of them up there in Scoch Plains. No, and you know why because the Anti's are happy when they have the hire guns. They are so stupid that they can't figure out that deer's are still being taken. Don't bet on it they save there money and energy if hunters are going to fight against this kind of (hunting). They will sit back and let us fight against each other. They fight against us ALL, and they see no difference between Sharpshooters and (Real Hunters) as we like to call ourselves. By letting and getting us to fight within the hunting community it saves them money and time. I've got to say though These Sharpshooters Make it easier for the anties by separating hunters from places {they should be handling the deer population}. You make it possible for them to fool us into separating ourselves. Paul __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 4:40 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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As for your (deer management) job If your Company or group or clubs, did not act on these towns requests or make yourselves available. They would have to Let in bow hunters sooner or later. And I have walls full of testimony to my shooting ability as Im sure the rest of us all do. So you really do hurt your fellow hunters. __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 4:45 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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ttt __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 4:46 PM | ||
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I don't see us separating, we are having an honest discussion amongst ourselfs. If the Anti's are looking in then they can learn something from us. That we are free to express ourselves withoug going over the top, and still be friends. __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 5:23 PM | ||
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Did anyone get any snow yesterday?  __________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 5:27 PM | ||
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and still be friends Ahhhh You like Me You Really Really Like Me   __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 6:06 PM | ||
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droptine, im kinda lost here, you just said we shouldnt be fighting this kinda hunting, but then say Quote:
So you really do hurt your fellow hunters. which is basically what ive been saying. and anyway i think we should fight things like this, the idea of infighting helping the antis it is true to an extent, but at the sametime we cant let these sharpshooters align themselves with the hunting community. the sharpshooters elimate everything that has to do with hunting and just focuses on the killing. allowing these people and others to refer to themselves as hunters hurts our community and fighting like el jefe says betters us.... __________________ robsrodnreel.com will be down for a few months. if you need any rod or reel work done contact me at robsrodnreel@hotmail.com.
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 6:52 PM | ||
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Quote: Am I getting an invite to this fight?
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 6:55 PM | ||
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I'll go in an shoot some deer for free. I know I can shoot my slug gun as good as any one.. Heck if I have to I'll use my bow.. Did I mention I will shoot for free.. I will take a shooting test if I have too. I can guarantee just about all of us Hunters can p [no swearing please] the shooting test, and we would go in and shoot deer for free. I would even pay for a permit why not. __________________ I just want to Hunt...
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 7:04 PM | ||
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Ok here you go stand up who started all this nonsence because the tread is about baiting only! I have no respect for a sharpshooter what so ever and that individual is a pirate with a hired gun, period. The Cat could make you look like a cub but I have said my peace so don't bring any nonsence to this site like the cursing with no apologys. You broke the rules of this site and if you do this here you will do it on the street and how do I know this? I do a little prison counseling and have seen some things and herd some things. Now lets get back to buisness enough said. This tread is about baiting only! I will start another tread on sharpshooters and that will be a loaded up one to say the least.Get it on there not on this tread. This was Highjacked which is another violation of the rules. Any one agree? 
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 7:07 PM | ||
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I don't recall the paper's showing ANTI'S at any of this type of hunts. Did anybody here see any of them up there in Scoch Plains. No, and you know why because the Anti's are happy when they have the hire guns. This a good point...if the anti's don't we as hunter should, with a strong showing fish and game will be less likely to grant the permit and political powers in the state and local government may look at this issue as something that may hurt there voter base. |
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 7:19 PM | ||
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| Take all this BS to the thread on Sharpshooters started! On this thread here you can become a Master Baiter diner cheif, whats wrong with you guys you know the rules and you play into a stolen thread. Maybe this needs to go to Hunters Court a forum to argue. We have legitimate young baiters coming up that want pages from our master chronicles? Yes or no which way do you go! | ||
| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 7:22 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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droptine, im kinda lost here, you just said we shouldnt be fighting this kinda hunting, but then say I don't suport sharp shooting, But I would not make a public fuss about it. I think any kind of anti hunting is not good for us all. Anties would love to divide Hunters and concur all forms of hunting. I think sharp shooters do hurt hunters in the suburbs ” not hunting” in it’s self. I would support them in there legal right to hunt in any method and in the face of losing all hunting rights. Back to baiting. Im a baiter 'but how can I become a great master baiter like you guys. __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 8:52 PM | ||
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| I agree that some of the places we shoot should be opened to the general public,but some of them could"nt be.There would be not accountabilty. I did'nt try to start a fight over this,just try to help someone out with baiting.We have be baiting for 12 years in this state and think I know ways that work better then others.As far UBA they wanted to hunt places we shoot,but just them no one else. | ||
| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 9:00 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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Don't sweat the small stuff .And it's all small stuff. Paul __________________ Pete's Archery Service & NJH.com ProStaff ProFile
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 9:17 PM | ||
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Again, what does UBA stand for?? __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 9:41 PM | ||
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Unbiased Buck Assassins. Now will you get off his back? You guys still carrying on here with no respect for the thread. Pitiful. Thread dogs thats all!
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| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 9:46 PM | ||
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| baiting....too much of good thing can cause harm. Hope that clears things up. | ||
| Posted: 13 Feb 2006 9:50 PM | ||
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| Hmm.. how many deer do I need to kill over a bait pile to become a master baiter?...lol | ||
| Posted: 14 Feb 2006 9:08 AM | ||
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Quote: how can I become a great master baiter like you guys. Quote: This level is only achieved by those that spend many years alone - you can tell when you have arrived at this level when you start to loose your eyesight. Ask Cat.how many deer do I need to kill over a bait pile to become a master baiter?...  __________________ "I spend most of my time fishing and bow hunting, the rest I waste"
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i have the problem also that the deer avoid my area at all costs ( all though i have only a little hedgrow attached to a 4 acre block of woods) but i use apples usually, and i only get small deer to move thru to get them. we dont have a normal deer movement, so once in a while i get the stupid ones. Im just saying that apples brings SOME deer to my area. __________________ GUNS DONT KILL, PEOPLE DO!!
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We have feeders on all of our properties but don't hunt over them they are for the purpose of scouting cams only. I scatter corn all around my stand almost to the point where you can't see it. It keeps em looking and keeps them in the area for good shot opportunities. Areas that I have feeders the deer tend to come at night so it's not a good idea to put a feeder at your stand site. Unless you set to go off only in the morning. __________________ EAT SLEEP HUNT Make your dreams a reality. Take a kid hunting. Film your next hunt. www.nloutdoors.com
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| Posted: 25 Jul 2008 1:42 PM | ||
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Quote: Yeah I won't ever forget that again that was scrwed up big time. Having to go into my stand with one eye and shoot with one eye rather than 2. If there was 1 deer standing there it looked like 2 with both eyes open. I thought I had a herd when I had only one there? I had an eye stroke at that time I found out.
when you start to loose your eyesight. Ask Cat. __________________ I never had any problems with piles of corn my self they ate 300 pounds in 3 days usally and kept coming back for more arrows?
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| Posted: 25 Jul 2008 4:58 PM | ||
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heres my senerio:
if im going hunting saturday..... Thusday i will try and get to my spot and using either a 50 or 100 lb bag of corn, i cut a hole in the corner and spin around in circles so its all in a 5-10 foot circle... Saturday i hunt it. Saturday evening i carry another 100 bag in the woods with me and i put the bag on the ground in the pile, cut the top off, bend down and stick both hands in the bag...grabbing corn and flinging it pretty far... (spreading it this way, i found, keeps the deer coming back until my next trip out on thursday where i start the sequece over..) if i were to dump in in the pile like i do on thursdays the deer eat it within 2 days. that means they dont visit the spot tuesday and wednesday. (which i want them to, JUST INCASE i get out one of those days to hunt... PLUS, dont MIX baits. they become sour and the deer wont eat it. i tried horse feed once. they didnt touch it. i threw corn in the same spot and they didnt touch that either. the horse feed actually became moldy and i could smell it before i get to the spot... PLUS, in the rut, the bucks (at least where i hunt) rarely visit the corn piles. they usually cruise past at 30-50 yards just looking for does. They know to check the corn piles regularly like food plots, __________________ Jersey Jays Taxidermy
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