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NJ Hunter / New Jersey Small Game & Waterfowl Hunting / Small Game Action / another rookie question
Posted:  05 Mar 2010 8:22 PM
how come in pictures of peoples catches, some animals are hide side out(like coon,muskrat) and others are fur side out(like fox, coyote)?
Posted:  05 Mar 2010 8:24 PM
I am not a trapper but I think that is part of the preserving process
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Posted:  06 Mar 2010 7:15 PM
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but I think that is part of the preserving process


im not a trapper either but it is part of that process. had to eliminate a muskrat living in my koi pond and decided to skin it and u have them hide out to dry em. others that r fur side out are already dryed
Posted:  06 Mar 2010 8:04 PM
Its the difference in industry practice.  For reasons unknown to me, buyers want muskrat and coon to be skin side out and K-9's to be fur side out.  I don't know why that is, because I figure you would always want to see all the fur (but I don't get to make the rules).
Posted:  06 Mar 2010 8:54 PM   Last Edited By: ub1243jp
from what i was told,
cats and k9 are matched by color, leather isn't as important.
coon, leather has to be fat free. same with rats. easier to see when the fur is in. many are dyed, but most k9's are dyed or tinted.
otter and mink singe easy, one would think they would be put up fur out. but the opposite is true.
skunks and grinners, fur in, why, have no idea.
ermine are fur in, but the fur color is important.
martin and fisher are fur out, it's all a color thing.
some make sense to me, others, i have no idea why it is done that way.
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Posted:  07 Mar 2010 12:26 AM   Last Edited By: redneck
Close  you can tell the primness of the hide on fox and cats yote and others ub mentioned by the flatness or lack of from the fur. the better the prim the more the guard hairs stand and the fur is dense with good under fur. color is important for coats but trim not so much.  on all others the leather will show the primness. blue, cream, dark spots,  where the rub is starting but not showing on the fur yet.  rats they want to see what I call two tone. rats you leave the thin red stuff on just take the fat.  on coon you can see the tick bites from last summer on the leather.
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Posted:  07 Mar 2010 2:16 AM
Redneck nailed it.
You may or may not have noticed also..But furbuyers prefer that you cut a 'window' on the belly of a coon pelt. Once on the strecher, trim the fur up a few inches so that the buyer can not only see the leather side but the color and density of the fur.

Although Mink and Otter are stretched fur in, buyers can still see enough fur to determine if the Otter and Mink are singed or if the Mink is a 'Cotton Mink'.
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Posted:  07 Mar 2010 11:37 AM
well this sucks then haha. all the critters i trapped i fliped fur side out even the muskrat and coon whoops.
Posted:  07 Mar 2010 9:12 PM
Where did you take the course  Hope it was north LOL
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Posted:  08 Mar 2010 6:36 AM
send them to get tanned.
http://www.moytown.com/
or a fly tier may buy them

you'll get beat up selling them.
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Posted:  08 Mar 2010 8:56 AM
Try soaking them up in some salt water, about 1/2 lb to a gallon of water. They will soften up and you can flip them. Blow the excess water off the fur with an air hose, leaf blower, or shop vac on the reverse setting and pat dry the skin side with a towel. Put them back on the stretchers and let them dry. Get them as dry as possible before putting them back on the stretchers. If they stay too wet, they may slip. It doesn't take too long in the salt water solution to soften them up. Give it a try on one or two and you will see how it works. Hopefully you fleshed the coons good enough, so there isn't too much fat. If there is still a lot of fat, when they soften up, you may be able to clean them up some more on a fleshing beam before re-stretching.
Posted:  08 Mar 2010 8:58 AM
Interesting

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Posted:  08 Mar 2010 9:13 AM
I should add, use non-iodized salt. Get a 3lb box of the Kosher salt from any grocery store. Should work fine.