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Well you see it wrong. I posted this in another thread but it applies to your comment also. If it wasn't for Isreal being the front line of defense against Islam we would have been fighting them much sooner. Below are some quotes from the Koran:

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We wouldn't have a lot of the problems we have now if we kept to ourselves and stopped letting people in this country.

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But you could easily go through the Talmud and pull out quotes that are just as, or more, disturbing then the quotes you posted from the Koran.

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But you could easily go through the Talmud and pull out quotes that are just as, or more, disturbing then the quotes you posted from the Koran.

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I hear that Obama wants to take over student loans in the HC bill. What the hell does student loans have to do with HC? Nothing thats what! It's just another power grab by this admin.

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This take over of student loans business has been on the table for a while both independently and as part of the government takover of healthcare. It is just more of the same, government take over of every aspect of our lives.

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Typicall fallback from folks who simply will not see what is right in front of them.

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Maybe so, I don't know, but the Jews are not attacking us like the Muslims are!

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Maybe if we threw all of the Muslims out that are here illegally, stopped letting them in, and stopped supporting Israel we wouldn't have such a problem with Muslims

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While its not a big deal for many students, there are a large percentage of students who finish college with 100K plus in debt and no realistic ability to pay it off. They are giving loans of $100K to students seeking a degree in social work-a field that pays only about $40K a year at the high end-that person will never pay off that debt, they will never have a good credeit score, and will never be able to become a product member of society.

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I think you're half right. The Palestinians are shooting rockets at them and the wacko in Iran wants to wipe them off the face of the earth and you want us to kick them to the side? I'm glad you're not my friend!

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So ask yourself, why is Israel so important? Could it be that they have a powerful lobby in Washington that gives more money to our politicians than any other? That would be my guess. These questions take guts to ask because you are immediately called a racist, anti-semite, or are compared to Hitler.

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As far as powerful Jewish lobbyists, most Jews are very politically liberal so their influence is mostly on left wing politicians.

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LOL-ever hear of AIPAC?

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No what is it?

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The fact that you don't know what AIPAC is and that you stated that "most Jews are politically very liberal so their influence is mostly on left wing politicians" shows that you're talking about something you know nothing about. 

A LOT of Jews vote conservative based on the issue of support for Israel.  Most "Left Wing" politicians (Like our President, in case you haven't been paying attention the little tiff over the new Gaza settlements) are frequently accused of throwing Israel under the bus.  Clearly your view of "most Jews" is that of whiny little Jerry Seinfeld stereotypes.  Go into a conservative or orthodox congregation and start telling them how they support "Left Wing" politicians-they'll be booting you out on your tookus faster than you can say meshugana.

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where in the constitution does it state that gove is empowered to mandate me to buy anything?

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Well what is it?

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While its not a big deal for many students, there are a large percentage of students who finish college with 100K plus in debt and no realistic ability to pay it off. They are giving loans of $100K to students seeking a degree in social work-a field that pays only about $40K a year at the high end-that person will never pay off that debt, they will never have a good credeit score, and will never be able to become a product member of society.

I for one certainly hope they amend the law to allow "outs" for some of the more serious cases.

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And they certainly need to create a system of checks to ensure loans aren't granted to people who can likley never re-pay them

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The fact that you don't know what AIPAC is and that you stated that "most Jews are politically very liberal so their influence is mostly on left wing politicians" shows that you're talking about something you know nothing about. 

A LOT of Jews vote conservative based on the issue of support for Israel.  Most "Left Wing" politicians (Like our President, in case you haven't been paying attention the little tiff over the new Gaza settlements) are frequently accused of throwing Israel under the bus.  Clearly your view of "most Jews" is that of whiny little Jerry Seinfeld stereotypes.  Go into a conservative or orthodox congregation and start telling them how they support "Left Wing" politicians-they'll be booting you out on your tookus faster than you can say meshugana.

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Why Does Obama Want an Israel Crisis?
by  Charles Krauthammer

03/19/2010


Why did President Barack Obama choose to turn a gaffe into a crisis in U.S.-Israeli relations?

And a gaffe it was: the announcement by a bureaucrat in the Interior Ministry of a housing expansion in a Jewish neighborhood in north Jerusalem. The timing could not have been worse: Vice President Joe Biden was visiting, Jerusalem is a touchy subject, and you don’t bring up touchy subjects that might embarrass an honored guest.

But it was no more than a gaffe. It was certainly not a policy change, let alone a betrayal. The neighborhood is in Jerusalem, and the 2009 Netanyahu-Obama agreement was for a 10-month freeze on West Bank settlements excluding Jerusalem.

Nor was the offense intentional. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu did not know about this move -- step four in a seven-step approval process for construction that, at best, will not even start for two to three years.

Nonetheless the prime minister is responsible. He apologized to Biden for the embarrassment. When Biden left Israel on March 11, the apology appeared accepted and the issue resolved.

The next day, however, the administration went nuclear. After discussing with the president specific language she would use, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Netanyahu to deliver a hostile and highly aggressive 45-minute message that the Biden incident had created an unprecedented crisis in U.S.-Israeli relations.

Clinton's spokesman then publicly announced that Israel was now required to show in word and in deed its seriousness about peace.

Israel? Israelis have been looking for peace -- literally dying for peace -- since 1947, when they accepted the U.N. partition of Palestine into a Jewish and Arab state. (The Arabs refused and declared war. They lost.)

Israel made peace offers in 1967, 1978 and in the 1993 Oslo peace accords that Yasser Arafat tore up seven years later to launch a terror war that killed a thousand Israelis. Why, Clinton's own husband testifies to the remarkably courageous and visionary peace offer made in his presence by Ehud Barak (now Netanyahu's defense minister) at the 2000 Camp David talks. Arafat rejected it. In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered equally generous terms to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas. Refused again.

In these long and bloody 63 years, the Palestinians have not once accepted an Israeli offer of permanent peace, or ever countered with anything short of terms that would destroy Israel. They insist instead on a "peace process" -- now in its 17th post-Oslo year and still offering no credible Palestinian pledge of ultimate coexistence with a Jewish state -- the point of which is to extract pre-emptive Israeli concessions, such as a ban on Jewish construction in parts of Jerusalem conquered by Jordan in 1948, before negotiations for a real peace have even begun.

Under Obama, Netanyahu agreed to commit his center-right coalition to acceptance of a Palestinian state; took down dozens of anti-terror roadblocks and checkpoints to ease life for the Palestinians; assisted West Bank economic development to the point where its GDP is growing at an astounding 7 percent a year; and agreed to the West Bank construction moratorium, a concession that Secretary Clinton herself called "unprecedented."

What reciprocal gesture, let alone concession, has Abbas made during the Obama presidency? Not one.

Indeed, long before the Biden incident, Abbas refused even to resume direct negotiations with Israel. That’s why the Obama administration has to resort to “proximity talks” -- a procedure that sets us back 35 years to before Anwar Sadat’s groundbreaking visit to Jerusalem.

And Clinton demands that Israel show its seriousness about peace?

Now that's an insult.

So why this astonishing one-sidedness? Because Obama likes appeasing enemies while beating up on allies -- therefore Israel shouldn't take it personally (according to Robert Kagan)? Because Obama wants to bring down the current Israeli coalition government (according to Jeffrey Goldberg)?

Or is it because Obama fancies himself the historic redeemer whose irresistible charisma will heal the breach between Christianity and Islam or, if you will, between the post-imperial West and the Muslim world -- and has little patience for this pesky Jewish state that brazenly insists on its right to exist, and even more brazenly on permitting Jews to live in its own ancient, historical and now present capital?

Who knows? Perhaps we should ask those Obama acolytes who assured the 63 percent of Americans who support Israel – at least 97 percent of those supporters, mind you, are non-Jews -- about candidate Obama's abiding commitment to Israel.

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My Healthcare Plan
by  Ann Coulter

03/17/2010


Liberals keep complaining that Republicans don't have a plan for reforming health care in America. I have a plan!

It's a one-page bill creating a free market in health insurance. Let's all pause here for a moment so liberals can Google the term "free market."

Nearly every problem with health care in this country -- apart from trial lawyers and out-of-date magazines in doctors' waiting rooms -- would be solved by my plan.


In the first sentence, Congress will amend the McCarran-Ferguson Act to allow interstate competition in health insurance.

We can't have a free market in health insurance until Congress eliminates the antitrust exemption protecting health insurance companies from competition. If Democrats really wanted to punish insurance companies, which they manifestly do not, they'd make insurers compete.

The very next sentence of my bill provides that the exclusive regulator of insurance companies will be the state where the company's home office is. Every insurance company in the country would incorporate in the state with the fewest government mandates, just as most corporations are based in Delaware today.

That's the only way to bypass idiotic state mandates, requiring all insurance plans offered in the state to cover, for example, the Zone Diet, sex-change operations, and whatever it is that poor Heidi Montag has done to herself this week.

President Obama says we need national health care because Natoma Canfield of Ohio had to drop her insurance when she couldn't afford the $6,700 premiums, and now she's got cancer.

Much as I admire Obama's use of terminally ill human beings as political props, let me point out here that perhaps Natoma could have afforded insurance had she not been required by Ohio's state insurance mandates to purchase a plan that covers infertility treatments and unlimited OB/GYN visits, among other things.

It sounds like Natoma could have used a plan that covered only the basics -- you know, things like cancer.

The third sentence of my bill would prohibit the federal government from regulating insurance companies, except for normal laws and regulations that apply to all companies.

Freed from onerous state and federal mandates turning insurance companies into public utilities, insurers would be allowed to offer a whole smorgasbord of insurance plans, finally giving consumers a choice.

Instead of Harry Reid deciding whether your insurance plan covers Viagra, this decision would be made by you, the consumer. (I apologize for using the terms "Harry Reid" and "Viagra" in the same sentence. I promise that won't happen again.)

Instead of insurance companies jumping to the tune of politicians bought by health-care lobbyists, they would jump to tune of hundreds of millions of Americans buying health insurance on the free market.

Hypochondriac liberals could still buy the aromatherapy plan and normal people would be able to buy plans that only cover things such as major illness, accidents and disease. (Again -- things like Natoma Canfield's cancer.)

This would, in effect, transform medical insurance into ... a form of insurance!

My bill will solve nearly every problem allegedly addressed by ObamaCare -- and mine entails zero cost to the taxpayer. Indeed, a free market in health insurance would produce major tax savings as layers of government bureaucrats, unnecessary to medical service in America, get fired.

For example, in a free market, the government wouldn't need to prohibit insurance companies from excluding "pre-existing conditions."

Of course, an insurance company has to be able to refuse NEW customers with "pre-existing conditions." Otherwise, everyone would just wait to get sick to buy insurance. It's the same reason you can't buy fire insurance on a house that's already on fire.

That isn't an "insurance company"; it's what's known as a "Christian charity."

What Democrats are insinuating when they denounce exclusions of "pre-existing conditions" is an insurance company using the "pre-existing condition" ruse to deny coverage to a current policy holder -- someone who's been paying into the plan, year after year.

Any insurance company operating in the free market that pulled that trick wouldn't stay in business long.

If hotels were as heavily regulated as health insurance is, right now I'd be explaining to you why the government doesn't need to mandate that hotels offer rooms with beds. If they didn't, they'd go out of business.

I'm sure people who lived in the old Soviet Union thought it was crazy to leave groceries to the free market. ("But what if they don't stock the food we want?")

The market is a more powerful enforcement mechanism than indolent government bureaucrats. If you don't believe me, ask Toyota about six months from now.

Right now, insurance companies are protected by government regulations from having to honor their contracts. Violating contracts isn't so easy when competitors are lurking, ready to steal your customers.

In addition to saving taxpayer money and providing better health insurance, my plan also saves trees by being 2,199 pages shorter than the Democrats' plan.

Feel free to steal it, Republicans