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| Posted: 03 Feb 2006 2:13 PM | ||
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Each town has a no discharge rule which covers both gun and bow. The only towns where hunting is permitted is parts of Mahwah and Oakland on 5 acres or more of land. However, very few of these around. Bergen is really just too populated although there are some large land tracts and golf courses that could sustain limited bowhunting. __________________ NRA Life Member
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| Posted: 03 Feb 2006 2:26 PM | ||
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Bergen is really just too populated although there are some large land tracts and golf courses that could sustain limited bowhunting. Some of those larger tracks of land could easily sustain bow and gun hunting. Campgaw reservation for example. Also, the park on 202 right next to Sun Valley farm, that land runs all the way up to the state land by Bear Swamp lake. Sun Valley Farm now consists of 300 acres along the Ramapo river, however, Fred Wheran, proprieter of Sun Valley Farms donated 500 acres to the Bergen County Parks system. That land he donated was all huntable when I was a kid, both bow & shotgun. It's also my understanding, that upon his death, he planned to donate the remaining 300 acres and his house to the Bergen County Parks system. Funny how once the county gets their hands on the land, it is no longer suitable for hunting, LOL. Garry __________________ Garry
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| Posted: 03 Feb 2006 7:48 PM | ||
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Rich - Appreciate the honesty and for making my point - neither deer came from an open park lands. Hunting next to a park, which does not allow hunting - I have had a similar situation, and know its aboug as good as you can ask for (had permision to hunt on a piece that right up against Camp ArrowHead in Marlboro). And to my point earlier = you still have to connect -and spend the time, and hunt smart to kill the big ones! I had a similar set up - and did not kill deer that big. But come to think - he has the state record typical - with the next closest being in the 160's - so maybe I dont feel so bad. Good discussion Rich - I plan to stop in sometime and meet you - I live pretty close |
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| Posted: 03 Feb 2006 8:04 PM | ||
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Quote: I went there years ago and I spoke to the care taker, he didn't care I hunted, but he also didn't want to get fired, and I didn't want that to happen. He took me on a tour of that Farm, what rubs I saw, and he showed me some really really nice racks. He knew guys tresspassed and hunted, but he never had the time to go looking for them. All I wanted was to bow hunt that farm
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| Posted: 03 Feb 2006 11:47 PM | ||
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| Hey Rich that squirrel tasted good!! | ||
| Posted: 04 Feb 2006 12:05 AM | ||
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I went there years ago and I spoke to the care taker, he didn't care I hunted, but he also didn't want to get fired, That must have been the caretaker after Mike retired as caretaker? Mike was never worried about getting fired, he pretty much called the shots for Fred Werhan as far as hunting went there, and Mike worked as caretaker for Fred for 30 years, then retired to Florida. Matter of fact, the first time I asked Fred for permission to hunt, he told me to check with Mike, and if it was ok with him, it was ok as far as Fred was concerned. I spent many a pleasureable day hunting that property, and many a pleasureable Sunday afternoon at Mikes apartment on the property with my kids, talking with Mike and his wife Agnes, but that was easily 15 years ago. Garry __________________ Garry
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| Posted: 04 Feb 2006 8:45 AM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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Rich - Appreciate the honesty and for making my point - neither deer came from an open park lands. Hunting next to a park, which does not allow hunting - I have had a similar situation, and know its aboug as good as you can ask for (had permision to hunt on a piece that right up against Camp ArrowHead in Marlboro). And to my point earlier = you still have to connect -and spend the time, and hunt smart to kill the big ones! I had a similar set up - and did not kill deer that big. But come to think - he has the state record typical - with the next closest being in the 160's - so maybe I dont feel so bad. Good discussion Rich - I plan to stop in sometime and meet you - I live pretty close But you and I are only talking about two of the many large bucks that were taken. We know the story about what it takes to bag a large wall hanger.It takes time, location, study of the area, knowledge of the area and the deer and most of all some luck to get it all together.Stop in any time. Good Luck To All You Guys Rich www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 04 Feb 2006 6:23 PM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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More photos of Big Bucks from Monmouth County
Buster Van Schocck 1957 score 166 4/8 Monmouth CountyNJ I mounted it in 1980 .......... 
Live photo of Ken Brown buck Monmouth County NJ This photo was taken in Monmouth County NJ 1977 Score 163 5/8 .......... 
Ken Brown with buck shot in Monmouth County NJ its now a housing development but this deer breed for quite a few seasons. .......... 
Rich __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 04 Feb 2006 8:54 PM | ||
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| how many points is this?? Its incredible!! I just love those old pics | ||
| Posted: 05 Feb 2006 8:22 AM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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Ken Browns buck was a 13 point 7x6 here are is one more pictures of the buck in Monmouth County NJ
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Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
1732 Hgy # 71 Wall NJ 07719 Phone 732-449-5950 Web pages http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com http://www.VELVET-ANTLERS.COM E-Mail rgswildlife@yahoo.com Life member - NRA & NJFSC: Standard Member UBNJ, NTA, GSTA, New Jersey Outdoor Alliance. |
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| Posted: 05 Feb 2006 8:34 AM | ||
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so is that the deer from the field in the newspaper?
Also, my family has a couple of Ken browns stands - I am assuming its the same guy? |
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| Posted: 05 Feb 2006 8:39 AM | ||
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so is that the deer from the field in the newspaper? What field and newspaper. And yes Ken used to make tree stands.He still lives in Wall. Rich __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 05 Feb 2006 8:44 AM | ||
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just you pics above - the black and white pic - looks kinda like a newspaper - and then the color pics of the 13 pointer in the field
hey- are Bill and Ken Brothers? just dawned on me - I feel like I should be law and order with all the questions - sorry rich |
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| Posted: 05 Feb 2006 8:55 AM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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Yes my buddie and I took the photos of the buck alive and the black and white was from Dec 1982 copy of "The Seasonal Sportsman" magagine that I used to supply with photos.No Ken and Bill are not related. Rich ........... 
__________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 06 Feb 2006 1:13 PM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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Mike Herbert, Bill Browns nephew with first Buck during his first time hunting 1985 12 pt buck Monmouth County NJ
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Rich __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 06 Feb 2006 1:27 PM | ||
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| That is one nice first time buck. | ||
| Posted: 06 Feb 2006 1:28 PM | ||
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| Wow! talk about genetics! Hard to tell just from a pic, but that looks like a young deer to be sporting that rack. | ||
| Posted: 14 Feb 2006 2:50 PM | ||
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If you guys would like to see more bucks let me know!!!
Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com/ __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
1732 Hgy # 71 Wall NJ 07719 Phone 732-449-5950 Web pages http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com http://www.VELVET-ANTLERS.COM E-Mail rgswildlife@yahoo.com Life member - NRA & NJFSC: Standard Member UBNJ, NTA, GSTA, New Jersey Outdoor Alliance. |
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| Posted: 14 Feb 2006 2:53 PM | ||
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Quote: That was a stupid question to ask usIf you guys would like to see more bucks let me know!!!  What do you think, we would say "Nah don't post them!!!" Please post
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| Posted: 14 Feb 2006 2:55 PM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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17 point buck 1968 in Beckerville NJ (ocean county) by Barry Cook with shotgun.Barry and I have been hunting together since 1960.
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2006 3:27 PM | ||
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1977 Colliers Mills NJ Rich-shotgun
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rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com/ __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2006 4:28 PM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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1991 Monmouth County NJ.
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Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 03 Mar 2006 6:14 PM | ||
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I guess this post is dead for a while. I need to get back to work any how. Guys I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.
Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 03 Mar 2006 6:17 PM | ||
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I saw a more recent pic of the guy Joe in the last picture with a really big buck, I forget where I saw the pic though. Great post, try to get some more pics of big bucks __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 03 Mar 2006 6:20 PM | ||
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Quote: Yea Joe had that deer taken from him by the game warden, I think he didn't tag it. Any way he lost it.
I saw a more recent pic of the guy Joe in the last picture with a really big buck, I forget where I saw the pic though. Great post, try to get some more pics of big bucks Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 03 Mar 2006 6:26 PM | ||
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Yea Joe had that deer taken from him by the game warden, I think he didn't tag it. Any way he lost it. 
Is this the deer? Was it also taken in your county? __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 03 Mar 2006 6:40 PM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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Is this the deer? Was it also taken in your county? No thats not the same deer. Look at the white circles around the eyes on your photo and my photo only has white under the eyes.Just to name a few differences.I don't know where he shot that one. Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 03 Mar 2006 6:53 PM | ||
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Those are some great pics of big bucks. Now if I can only get me one that size 
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| Posted: 05 Mar 2006 2:44 PM | ||
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May the good luck fairy bump into us both!!!
Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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| Posted: 12 Mar 2006 11:43 AM Last Edited By: rgswildlife | ||
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Shot 2005 Monmouth County NJ
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Rich http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
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