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| Posted: 22 Dec 2005 7:05 PM | ||
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Anyone hunting there. Oh wait, let me re-phrase that, is anyone from this site huting there...I already know about 2000 people are hunting it.
I've been hunting there for several years, but started hunting it more frequently this year. I've been seeing some sign, but not much in the way of deer, so I've been doing some scouting the past month during midday hours. I've only covered about 1/4 of the total land area, and I've found 67 stands in the trees. No lie, I have never seen such hunting pressure. No wonder I can't find a deer in the daylight. __________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 22 Dec 2005 7:14 PM | ||
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Where is this place? Never heard of it. __________________ "Liberty and Prosperity"....the former our state government is trying to eradicate, and the latter they are trying to prevent.
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| Posted: 22 Dec 2005 7:52 PM | ||
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Salem County...zone 27 __________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 22 Dec 2005 8:02 PM | ||
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Good luck,won't find me there now.I've been down there a few times over the last couple years and scouted some of the new property that was added on.
Too many guys for me.Wish I had a decent farm to lease.Oops,I forgot,we do lease a farm,but hunting down there isn't probably any better than T Gut! 
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| Posted: 22 Dec 2005 8:12 PM | ||
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I used to hunt there all the time. Off spillway is where I spent most of my time. I got a couple of nice does(110-120 lbs.) The deer are there their patterns constantly change with each season. There are good size deer there and are plentiful. Good Luck
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| Posted: 22 Dec 2005 8:23 PM | ||
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Iron, that area around the lake is loaded with stands. I don't have any trouble finding deer sign, problem is there are stands EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE. Seriously, I've hunted WMA's in Salem and Cumberland county for 25 years and never seen pressure like that. Just wondered if any of those stands belonged to anyone here. __________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 23 Dec 2005 6:54 PM | ||
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I haven't been there for two years, I always hunted off to the right of the next tower. About a hundred or so yds. in the thicker area, and also in that oak grove just past there. They usually travel along the streams on both sides of the power lines.
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| Posted: 19 Jan 2006 10:23 AM | ||
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there is better pieces of ground than that one.
if you want to stay there... Come off of freesburg road.. not as crowded __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 19 Jan 2006 10:24 AM | ||
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| Posted: 19 Jan 2006 10:25 AM | ||
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what are you confused about? __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 19 Jan 2006 10:25 AM Last Edited By: BowhunterNJ | ||
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Wow, why are you staying there? Some legendary bucks running around? Seems like an insane amount of pressure, I'd be looking elsewhere for sure! 
BTW, interesting WMA name...is that to describe how you feel when you get to your hunting location to see 8 treestands surrounding yours in a 50 yard radius? The ol' Thundergut in the morning...like someone just recoiled a 10 gauge into your gut. |
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| Posted: 19 Jan 2006 5:34 PM | ||
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I've hunted it for a long time, but don't usually do alot of in-season scouting there. I did some thins year and found all the stands. The pressure has really exploded in the last few years I guess.
Java...I do go in from Freisburg Rd. I'll probably keep a few spots in reserve there, but am trying the UBNJ hunt in Quinton this year. Probably almost as crowded, but hopefully not, we'll see. __________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:30 AM | ||
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have you tried any other state ground other than thundergut? __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:44 AM Last Edited By: NJ_Bowhntr | ||
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have you tried any other state ground other than thundergut? I used to hunt Salem River, but not too much any more. Same for Maskels Mill Pond. I hunt a few private places, Thundergut, the Natural Lands Trust and Union Lake WMA the most. Oh yeah, what little woods there is to Elmer Lake WMA, I hunt that too. Most people don't realize there is basically no property next to the lake that can be hunted...that is private land, and belongs to my brothers' in-laws. He and I hunt that, post it every year, and every year the signs get torn down. We've been catching people in there regularly, and I stopped giving warnings in 2004, now everyone gets charged. He lives right up the street so it's easy for us to catch them there now, but we still miss a few. The other small pieces that go with Elmer are landlocked by private land, but get HAMMERED. I have permission to get to them, but so do alot of people. After about the first week of bow season, any deer in there have been chased out of those little spots and run across the road into private land. Up until last year, we also leased a piece of ground by USANA for a few years, but had alot of trespassing problems there with the guys who used to hunt it. Me and my buddy gave it up, but someone was right there to pay for it after we left. It's really hard to find a decent piece of private ground in that area now. If you are seeing the kind of deer numbers you posted, you have something very rare...keep ahold of it. __________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:50 AM | ||
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we are def. trying to keep a hold of it..
That is why I am trying to do something about the deer destruction permit. The numbers that you see are true... one example... in 2 1/2 hours... we saw 83 deer -- no repeats... they were coming out of the woods headed to the field... __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:52 AM | ||
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| WTF, 83 deer? I don't think there are 83 deer in the entire WMA I hunt. OK there are, but that's a big chunk of them. How big is this piece you are hunting? I figure they are "yarding" or fielding up this time of year so you pull alot of deer into this field during the winter? | ||
| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:55 AM Last Edited By: javabird17 | ||
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everyone driving pushes them to a place where there isn't a lot of pressure...
35 to 40 acres __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:56 AM | ||
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83 deer??? Do you need some help reducing the herd over there.  Seriously, if you see 83 deer coming to a field, I can see why the guy wants a crop damage permit.__________________ Those who value unity among hunters, do not advance agendas that divide hunters. Logically, those who pursue divisive changes or agendas, despite the resulting division, care more for advancing their agenda than they do for unity among hunters.
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 11:02 AM Last Edited By: javabird17 | ||
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deer destruction permits are helping more than he needs!
Believe me the number will be decreased by 50% by spring.. A lot of people around us are pushing hard __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 11:09 AM | ||
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83 deer on 35-40 acres is entirely too many. Man, that is just plain sick, but I'm sure it's enjoyable and entertaining hunting to see so much action.
How are they going to cut them down by 50% if the place doesn't have alot of pressure and is where everyone is driving them into? |
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 11:20 AM | ||
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Pressure all around us... the pressure backs off .. the deer start moving back to the surrounding areas.. and those areas are farms with the destruction permit...
The farmers blast the heck out of them... what are you left with? __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 11:24 AM | ||
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Do either of you use bait to keep the deer in your area? __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 6:59 PM | ||
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Thundergut sucks,too many hunters,ruined like half the other places in the state...
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| Posted: 20 Jan 2006 7:46 PM | ||
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When I first started deer hunting, that was where I got my first deer. A doe that dressed out at 120 lbs. Back then during M/L there was usually only around 4 or 5 people coming in off Spillway. Everyone was always spread apart. Never a problem. One of the last times I hunted there during 6-day I had my nephew with me. I went to my normal spot and set my nephew up about 150 yds. away. A friend of mine had a lock on stand that he only used during bow about 70 yds. from where I was. We were set up before the sun came up. About 15 min. before legal shooting time I watched someone walk up and climb up in the stand. I shined my flashlight up at him. and he didn't even flinch. After the sun came up I walked up to him and asked him why he was there, he said it was a friends stand, of course he didn't know his friend name. After that time I only hunted it for M/L. It always was a great place to go. I've got a lot of good memories there.
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| Posted: 23 Jan 2006 9:14 AM | ||
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friend of mine got one out of there 6 day F/A week. 154 lbs, I think it was. Still can pull nice ones.. __________________ Former Vegan
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| Posted: 23 Jan 2006 9:39 AM | ||
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Elmer Lake WMA, I hunt that too. Most people don't realize there is basically no property next to the lake that can be hunted...that is private land, and belongs to my brothers' in-laws. He and I hunt that, post it every year, and every year the signs get torn down. We've been catching people in there regularly, and I stopped giving warnings in 2004, now everyone gets charged. He lives right up the street so it's easy for us to catch them there now, but we still miss a few. The other small pieces that go with Elmer are landlocked by private land, but get HAMMERED. I have permission to get to them, but so do alot of people. After about the first week of bow season, any deer in there have been chased out of those little spots and run across the road into private land. Hey , do you know anyone around there with a Deer destruction permit? __________________ Former Vegan
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