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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:44 AM | ||
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Is it....
Time? Area? Knowledge? Deer (buck or Doe) fever? Patients? What is it? I think this thread will help some who have yet to harvest deer! As for me, when I was younger, I could not stop moving or fidgeting while on stand or on the ground. I had everything else on lock, but the above mentioned. Once I learned to be patient control my self by listening, slowing my breathing, I began to see and hear deer. As a seasoned hunter I know it is tough sitting in a tree for hours without seeing a tail that i did not create! You all know what I'm talking about, the deer that you saw from the stand but it ended up being a tree or rock formation. lolol What is it, explain? __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:46 AM | ||
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to me... i have gotten my share of deer.. but when it comes down... just not being at the right place at the right time.... __________________ Ima meatatarian.... i only eat meat...it's a personal choice that i have made....
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:49 AM | ||
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Dsaint, You nailed it. It is hard when just starting off hunting. More so if you don't have someone to show you the ropes. Timing can kill a hunt just as it can make it a memory that will last a life time. Learn from the woods and the animals that live there. Slow down, smell the flowers and watch the World open up. __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:52 AM | ||
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True, area (patterning)is your problem! Do you scout often or try and keep a tab on the deer herd in your area! Man, I just wish I had the time scout more __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:54 AM | ||
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MG,
It takes awhile to learn Patients and become one with Nature...this is how I NOW approach hunting and life in general! __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:56 AM | ||
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Quote: That comes with experience, and learning to read the signs that deer leave behind.
being at the right place at the right time Scouting from February through August will give you an excellent idea of where the deer are, where they go, their travel routes, food sources, bedding areas etc... Keep a journal of your finds(trails, rubs, scrapes, thickets etc..), plot them out on a map of your hunting area. Over time, the total picture will emerge. Deer are generally habitual, they keep the same travel routes, same food sources and bedding areas from year to year. Their patterns do change, but not drastically. Once you have that total picture, you can select your stand placements to give you the greatest opportunity. You will see deer on every sit, and have shot opportunities regularly. You may not find that giant wall hanger, but there will always be meat on the table! __________________ Support the N.J.O.A. and the "Littel Amendment" An amendment to the New Jersey State Constitution that Guarantees the right to hunt, trap, and fish in New JerseyNew Jersey Outdoor Alliance
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:57 AM | ||
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that is why they now have trail cams. if You don't have one you can use a piece of sewing thread to make a trail marker. when the deer walk in to it, it will show the way they are moving... You can also rack up the ground so when they walk they will leave a trail.
Scouting is a big key to taking any game you hunt. __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:57 AM | ||
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Why do you think you haven't harvested a deer yet? Cuz the season hasn't opened yet 
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 11:59 AM | ||
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MTH,
You got it down! Keep it coming, someone will learn from this post! Great Info by all so far! __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 12:01 PM | ||
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Cuz the season hasn't opened yet lol Now back to the SUBJECT1  __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 12:01 PM | ||
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Cuz the season hasn't opened yet __________________ Dik... ya beat me to it... |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 12:02 PM | ||
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because the season didnt start yet __________________ New baby girl born Nov 1st!!!!!
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 12:08 PM | ||
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I need a crossbow.
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 12:13 PM | ||
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It takes awhile to learn Patients and become one with Nature... that is 100 % true. I attribute all of my success in the woods to the fact my old man started taking me in the the woods around the age of 8. I obviously didn't see to many deers at that age, only when they ran from me spooking them  . 27 years later, i benefit from all of my past experiences and teaching. I the deers show me every year that i still have a lot to learn.
So for anyone new to hunting, i definitely recommend to find someone who will take you under there wing for a while. |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 12:16 PM Last Edited By: red65 | ||
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I think it's time and area for me, I can only hunt afternoons on UBNJ hunts...(Close to home)
I did miss a shot last year.. 
I talking about bow... __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 2:15 PM | ||
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I think it's time and area for me, I can only hunt afternoons on UBNJ hunts...(Close to home) So now tell me red what hinders you in this situation to use it as an excuse? If your on a UBNJ property shouldn't there be deer? Whats wrong with the afternoons? Heres where your woodsmanship comes in to get you close to a deer to present your shot. Then you have to have your marksmen ship skills in line but the biggest of all when the shot presents itself is emotions. Emotions is the key to be calm to shoot acurately. You can talk yourself into a mis or you can talk yourself into a kill if you don't break form and are presented with a good shot or you could screw it up because you didn't see the twig in front of the animals chest. We can't teach you the emotional awarness part you have to master that in preparation to shoot and kill an animal. Do you stump shoot or shoot at other live animals? That all helps. |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 2:20 PM | ||
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Great points by all!  __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 2:51 PM | ||
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Theres only a few reasons as I see it to boil it down maybe a couple more.
No shot Missed shot Didn't go out No place to hunt Wife won't let me go Have to work and can't get off Animals all ran away in my area I really don't have the heart to kill or wound with an arrow because theres always gun season,boom and brown and down and then sawem up. Maybe we should ask those who haven't harvested a deer yet how many shots were you able to get in those days you were able to get out? Then narrow down to better assist you. |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 2:51 PM | ||
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| Because I haven't gotten off my horse yet and into the blind! But I am ready!!! | ||
| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 2:52 PM | ||
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Maybe this is your year
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 3:20 PM | ||
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So now tell me red what hinders you in this situation to use it as an excuse? I said TIME, the more time you put in the better your chances... Quote: WHAT?
Heres where your woodsmanship comes in to get you close to a deer to present your shot. Then you have to have your marksmen ship skills in line but the biggest of all when the shot presents itself is emotions. Emotions is the key to be calm to shoot acurately. You can talk yourself into a mis or you can talk yourself into a kill if you don't break form and are presented with a good shot or you could screw it up because you didn't see the twig in front of the animals chest. We can't teach you the emotional awarness part you have to master that in preparation to shoot and kill an animal. Cat I've never killed with a BOW..... I have gun hunted over 20 years, save your lesons for someome else.. __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 3:20 PM | ||
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So now tell me red what hinders you in this situation to use it as an excuse? I bet he's smoking on stand.  am I right.
It tokk me more than a few years to harvest my fist. I used to still hunt and stalk. Came close but no meat. My wife bought me a tree stand for my B-day one year, I gave up smoking and Voila. Got my first one. Someone posted in another thread once you get your first one the rest will follow. And I beleive this. You need confidence but most of all you need to learn to be still, and hunt the wind. __________________ The 4 seasons - Almost Summer, Summer, Still Summer and Hunting Season
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 3:33 PM | ||
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Quote: Nope...I bet he's smoking on stand. am I right
I could if I wanted to, the deer always come from my left and the wind is in my face so they wouldn't smell me til they go behind me.... __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 4:03 PM | ||
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Quote: I agree, More so now since I had my Heart Surgery. That is why You take your time in stand, if you must move move slowly. But we also need more mentors & help bring them in to hunting.MG, It takes awhile to learn Patients and become one with Nature...this is how I NOW approach hunting and life in general! __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 4:04 PM Last Edited By: mightyhunter | ||
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Hang in there red65 it'll come. I beleive there is alot of luck involved also (right place right time). Last year I got my first with the bow and it took till extended season to get a BB. I saw alot of deer just not in range or got busted by scent or moving a couple of times. One shot one deer. Be patient and have fun!
Good luck this season!
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 4:27 PM | ||
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| When I was young and waiting for my first deer I was afraid, afraid of taking a bad shot, afraid of missing, and with the shotgun/rifle afraid of shooting a doe by accident, so much so I checked the antlers over and over, my Dad re-inforced the safety and ethics of hunting over and over, not a bad thing, just made it hard for me to take the shot, it comes down to experience and confidence, once you have them you will find success. | ||
| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 5:08 PM | ||
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| I didn't start deer hunting until I was around 40. No mentors, just read everything I coudl and spent a fari about of time in the woods scouting. Also, I started with a bow and do the vast majority of my deer hunting with it. This has forced me to read sign, minimize scent and learn to be as motionless as possible while on stand. The woodsmanship will come with time. Scent control and eliminating noise and movement is something you'll learn after you bust a few deer. I still remember my boys telling me after one of their first hunts "when you said we couldn't move, you really meant it!" I was always able to put them onto deer, but it took them years to stop busting them. | ||
| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 5:35 PM | ||
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I have gun hunted over 20 years, save your lesons for someome else Ok I guess you got it covered then. Just cause you gunnedem down don't think you will kill one as easy , Oh you might slice them up so when your on your trail and looking for the deer lets see what you find 
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 5:35 PM | ||
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Cuz the season hasn't opened yet __________________ Dik... ya beat me to it... because the season didnt start yet Damn it, I thought the same exact thing when I read it...Obviously we're all extremely funny guys!!!! __________________ "Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 5:53 PM | ||
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Quote: In no way do I have everything covered, but I do know what to expect...Ok I guess you got it covered then. Just cause you gunnedem down don't think you will kill one as easy , Oh you might slice them up so when your on your trail and looking for the deer lets see what you find
You seem to be talking down to those that haven't taken a deer, I don't know I could be wrong..  __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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