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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 3:50 PM | ||
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I was going to apply for change of address in Toms River. Nothing recent has happened as far criminally but in 93 when I was 11 I was in a mental hospital for observation related to ADD. IF I am denied a new FID with my new address am I expected to surrender my firearms and if I went hunting or to the range would I be considered a felon? __________________ Assault is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.
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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 3:53 PM | ||
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how could they deny those big juicy why'd you get denied???? __________________ "One of my favorite sounds is the silence of the woods"
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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 4:12 PM | ||
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how could they deny those big juicy why'd you get denied???? lol im a dude...its just a cool avatar...they didnt deny me..forget it you cant read __________________ Assault is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.
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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 4:17 PM | ||
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Your NJ FPID is useless right now anyway. A NJ FPID is NOT required to transport, possess or hunt. It's for purchase of long guns only. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 4:35 PM | ||
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Quote: I know your a dude you D!CK!!!! It was a joke!!!!! You've got the personality of a stick!!!lol im a dude...its just a cool avatar...they didnt deny me..forget it you cant read  My point was "Why did you get denied"(if thats the case).....How bout this On opening day,get an antler hat and go running through the woods ok???? anybody joins this site huh??? __________________ "One of my favorite sounds is the silence of the woods"
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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 4:42 PM | ||
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If they deny you you can appeal the denial in court and have a judge decide if your childhood problems should keep you from getting your FID now...
A police officer buddy of mine told me that just about everyone they deny gets thier FID anyway through the courts... Man I'm glad I got out of NJ and moved to AMERICA!!!!!!!  __________________ ............................................
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| Posted: 14 Aug 2008 9:24 PM | ||
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I know your a dude you D!CK!!!! It was a joke!!!!! You've got the personality of a stick!!! My point was "Why did you get denied"(if thats the case).....How bout thisOn opening day,get an antler hat and go running through the woods ok???? anybody joins this site huh??? hahah antler hat how funny hahahahhaha...retard...I didnt get denied dude read the post again if you have to it says "IF I AM DENIED" not "I WAS DENIED" lol __________________ Assault is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.
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| Posted: 21 Aug 2008 8:37 AM | ||
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IF I am denied a new FID with my new address That makes no sense.. If it was going to be denied, it would have been the first time. Unless you have commited a crime since getting your first FID and they just didn't get around pulling it, there is no reason you should be denied for a change of address. If you failed to disclose that information the first time and do it now then a problem might arise.... |
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| Posted: 21 Aug 2008 8:46 AM | ||
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Quote: SOOOOOO NOT TRUE!!!! Odds are if you are denied your FPID by the cops, the Courts will more likley than not uphold that denial. The test is an abuse of discretion. I see cases all the time where people challenge denials, and the Courts say too bad!
A police officer buddy of mine told me that just about everyone they deny gets thier FID anyway through the courts... Quote: Not 100% accurate. yes you need the card to purchase, but the way the law is written, You have to have the card in possession whenever in possession of a firearm with some limited circumstances. (hunting, to/from the range or gunsmith, in your home etc..) You're thinking so what, the only time I'm in possession of my shotgun is during one of the enumerated exceptions--but it gets very fuzzy.
A NJ FPID is NOT required to transport, possess or hunt. It's for purchase of long guns only. Say you are going out hunting, and you stop and meet your crew at the Dinner for breakfast before the start of deer drives. The exception to the FPID card rule says you can have the gun in a case in your car for travel "directly" to and from hunting. Stopping at the dinner is not "directly" to and from. There are countless pit falls that you can get bit by--especially with with a hardnoses PD that has little patience for hunters. __________________ Support the N.J.O.A. and the "Littel Amendment" An amendment to the New Jersey State Constitution that Guarantees the right to hunt, trap, and fish in New JerseyNew Jersey Outdoor Alliance
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| Posted: 21 Aug 2008 9:08 AM | ||
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| Posted: 21 Aug 2008 9:12 AM Last Edited By: bloodtrails | ||
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Say you are going out hunting, and you stop and meet your crew at the Dinner for breakfast before the start of deer drives. The exception to the FPID card rule says you can have the gun in a case in your car for travel "directly" to and from hunting. Stopping at the dinner is not "directly" to and from. There are countless pit falls that you can get bit by--especially with with a hardnoses PD that has little patience for hunters. MTH, It makes no difference if you have a NJ FPID or not in your example. BTW, the law does not state "directly" It says you should only deviate when "reasonably necessary". __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 21 Aug 2008 10:07 AM | ||
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Quote: That's what he told me... He was pissed about it too...SOOOOOO NOT TRUE!!!! Quote: That's the way I figured it would go most of the time....I see cases all the time where people challenge denials, and the Courts say too bad! __________________ ............................................
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| Posted: 14 Sep 2008 2:19 PM | ||
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BloodTrails - Respectively, an FPID card is not just to purchase long guns here in NJ. You need the FPID card to even lookat a new firearm at a Dick's Sporting Goods counter. You also need one to join most private ranges to practice, at least I did. You also need an FPID card if you want to buy any handgun ammunition locally here in NJ. There may be other reasons too, I don't have time to look through all the NJ statutes... __________________ Joe
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| Posted: 14 Sep 2008 2:37 PM | ||
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Quote: A NJ FPID is NOT required to transport, possess or hunt. It's for purchase of long guns onlyQuote:
i beg to difer it is needed to posses i had a outstanding restrianting order from 93 that i knew nothing about and almost lost everything but all is well now after a long battle in court and 3000.00 got it straight |
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| Posted: 14 Sep 2008 3:47 PM | ||
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i beg to difer it is needed to posses i had a outstanding restrianting order from 93 that i knew nothing about and almost lost everything but all is well now after a long battle in court and 3000.00 got it straight No, you didn't. That was a condition for you to get your firearms back. If you wanted to you could have fought it legally. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 14 Sep 2008 4:22 PM | ||
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| i never lost them they said if i lost in court i would have to surrender all weapons and my fid | ||
| Posted: 14 Sep 2008 6:44 PM | ||
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i never lost them they said if i lost in court i would have to surrender all weapons and my fid Please explain the situation again. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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