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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 8:52 PM
I shoot a Parker Frontier 2.  It launches a arrow at 330 fps.  I am having trouble grouping my Thunderhead 100's. Had my bow tuned this past weekend. Was told my thunderheads are to large for my arrow speed.   Ready to give the Mechanicals a try.  What do you recommend ?  And how do you back a Mechanical out of a foam target ?
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 8:54 PM
i use the rage and they come with practice tips. what kind of target u shooting?
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 8:56 PM
Try  the muzzy 4 blade if you wanna stay with a fixed blade. Rocket steelheads would be my choice for a mechanical
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 8:58 PM
Who tuned your bow?
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 8:59 PM
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i use the rage and they come with practice tips. what kind of target u shooting?


me too awesome broadhead my bow shoots awesome with them
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:01 PM
also check out those gream reapers. i hear there awesome...
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:13 PM
hear wierd things about the Rage heads.  That they open in the quiver ,  Hearing good things about the Grim reapers.  How do you back them out of a Block 4x4.  They cost so much for 3   i just want to get it right the first time.  can always switch back too the thunderheads.  GG bow was tuned up at Sportsman center.
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:15 PM
before you buy new broadheads go see ron and have him paper tune it for you with the thunderheads.. will save you money
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:20 PM
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before you buy new broadheads go see ron and have him paper tune it for you with the thunderheads.. will save you money


he set up my new hoyt and did a fantastic job he really knows his stuff putting it mildly
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:24 PM
i never heard of a boradhead being to big for arrow speed....i shoot the rage and yes they are a pain in the rear in the quiver but i can say there isnt much of a tracking job. 4 shots 4 deer last year, none went past 60 yards and the blood trails were unreal....
Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:24 PM
My opinion is that if a bow is properly tuned...you should be able to shoot any broadhead.
I may be wrong..Just my two cents.
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:25 PM
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none went past 60 yards and the blood trails were unreal....


the truth about bowhunting blood trails are great
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:28 PM
hunter you are correct but i never seen anything like this...i like to watch the deer go down, i guess im just sick like that
Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:32 PM
im with ya the  2 deer i shot last year the blood trails were so full it was like a can of paint being spilled through the woods
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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:38 PM
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My opinion is that if a bow is properly tuned...you should be able to shoot any broadhead.
I may be wrong..Just my two cents.



I agree, Ronny did not tell you that, my guess it was the young kid that works there, I never have gotten his name.

Thunderheads are tried and true one of if not the best head you can buy. I've used Muzzys for a lot of years but this last pack seems to be very cheap. The tips wont stay on the ferrel.

THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION use a fixed blade unless you desperately need to use mechanicals. If you cant get a fixed to fly on spot out to 30-40 yards 1. you are shooting outside your ability 2. Your bow is not properly tuned 3. You are using the wrong shaft spine.

Broadheads are getting expensive and you will spend a lot of money on them and in the end it will be one of these problems.

Broadhead tune your setup, shoot your BH and adjust  just like if you were paper tuning, then if you are not consistent then you have a set up problem. 

A little long winded but I hate to see fellow hunters waste time and money pissing in the wind.
Posted:  21 Jul 2008 9:46 PM
If you really wanna put them down  with-in sight of your stand....try these bad boyz

Part fixed blade / part mechanical,  totally wicked !


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Posted:  21 Jul 2008 11:27 PM   Last Edited By: nickoutdoors
those look like the can do some major damage. wow!
Posted:  21 Jul 2008 11:39 PM
Rage 2 blade...wasp jakhammer....NAP scorpion and spitfire....just to name a few tried and true. Ive used most everything and the above are the ones i bet the farm on if need be.
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 7:18 AM
Try the Vortex. The 2 1/2" cut puts them down fast
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 7:42 AM
I recommend getting your bow tuned with a fixed head broadhead.  It's worth the effort.
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 7:43 AM
Rage
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 7:58 AM
Rage - Great blood trails. Can't go wrong.
Posted:  22 Jul 2008 8:36 AM
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i can say there isnt much of a tracking job. 4 shots 4 deer last year, none went past 60 yards and the blood trails were unreal....


Hey I can say there isn't much of a tracking job with ANY sharp arrow that is put in the right place on a deer.
Last season I shot 6 deer, short blood trails too from a fixed blade head out of a recurve shooting 180 fps no wounding blood trails were from 0 yards (deer had no idea it was hit) to 80 yards 8 point buck and I don't know how he went that far.

MY POINT IN THIS POST
A responcable trad shooter will tune both his bow AND his arrow to shoot with the BH of his choice and it should be even easyer for any compound shooter to do the same.
Stick with that fixed blade head and tune or have things tuned for you to shoot that way!
We owe it to the game.
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 11:19 AM
i shoot better using my rage practice broadhead then i do with field tips...
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 11:52 AM
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I shoot a Parker Frontier 2.  It launches a arrow at 330 fps.

No it doesnt.  Maybe at IBO standards, but I doubt you shoot a 30in draw, at 70lbs, with a 350g arrow, with nothing on the string.

In reality your probably shooting somewhere in the 260-270fps range.  You should NOT need to shoot a mechanical at that speed to achieve accuracy.

You need to tune your bow
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 12:06 PM
Great success with the 2 blade rage!
Posted:  22 Jul 2008 12:09 PM
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn141/chefm70/rage.jpg

this is the hole a rage two blade makes
Posted:  22 Jul 2008 12:39 PM
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this is the hole a rage two blade makes


And if THAT hole is in the guts or shoulder you still have an ugly mess, guilt ridden hunter and a suffering deer that you may never find no matter how long you spend looking.
Far better to have a head that ALL WAYS IS OPEN READY TO CUT ENTRY TO EXIT that you know will hit the spot you aimed for.
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 1:43 PM
I would agree with gobblergetter that a propperly tuned bow should be able to shoot fixed blades, however this could be just an arrow issue. Inserts not properly aligned /  installed.. Also, at 330 fps, that adds an entire different level of tuning. I have seen bows that were tuned to the max with hooter shooter, with arrows that were perfect spine that just would not shoot fixed blades. All of these bows were in the 300 fps plus range. If you get sick of messing with it and it shoots a field tip pefectly, then try a rage or a grim reaper and keep whats left of your sanity... Or slow the bow down with a heavier arrow and start over...
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Posted:  22 Jul 2008 1:58 PM
I shoot a Parker myself.70 lbs. Bow is tuned and shoots a 100 grain Muzzy outta there like a dart. Knockin doe's down was a breeze,but when hittin the big boys with a double lunger I found the bow was zippin thru so fast,it wasn't makin a real big hole. On a full run they tended to get out past 80 yards or more before droppin.Wasn't always leavin me a real good blood trail. In thick stuff I was afraid I would lose'em. Went to the two blade rage. That thing is plain ole' nasty. I think 15 yards was the farthest anything went. And it opened everytime.