220 Acres for lease in Upper Freehold Twp

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have had a lot of responce for leasing our 220 acres. Please send me an email with your clubs "resume" Ex. How many in your group, How many years hunting, professional experience (is any in law enforcement, lawyers...) Do you mainly gun, bow or both? Bird hunt? Will you post the property? How do you handle tresspassers? Do you have liabilty insurance? Can we be named as additional insured on your policy? Do you drive deer? Do you have any references? What is the name of you club? Do you have any other properties?

Please answer all of the questions in your email so I can present you clubs info to my partners so that we can make a decision.

I know this seems like a lot but I hope you can understand where we are coming from. We do not want ANY problems and would like to find a group that can stay with us for a while. It is very expesive to hold onto this property and we are looking to cover our expenses.

I posted an aireial photo of the property so you should have a good idea what the property is like. Please let know what the most you are willing to pay for an annual lease. We are looking to get the best price we can with the best group. I have allready had a few groups offer over $9,000.

Please get back to me soon. I will be making a decision in the next week

Posted: 10 Jul 2008 7:14 AM
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I just saw this post... PM sent. __________________ Life Member NRA, NAHC, NAFC Member NJWF, NWTF, NRHRC, NJFSC Recording Sec. SORG

Posted: 10 Jul 2008 9:02 AM
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Sorry let the truth be told so why hide the real facts? I don't like having to pay high prices that are driven up by demand and thats why we don't have certain propertys. We can't afford them and they aren't within our budget or dues. If your in the golden belt and this place is that's what the mans property could be worth. Why try to cheat him out of it and cheap him off? That's were hunters are greedy they want but not step to the plate to pay what its worth. They want it for free and some places you can get it. I'm sure theres a group of business men out there that can handle any price. I know of places they get because of the $$$.

Posted: 10 Jul 2008 8:29 PM
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cat do you think your helping anyone of us by making those statements sure you can probably get a nice penny for the property but you can also have 30 guys shooting up your property killing everything in sight i say leave it alone and let tim make up his mind maybe just maybe the little guy might win out and might be the right fit for that property or at least thats what i am hoping for

Posted: 10 Jul 2008 9:27 PM
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pjwoods, i am glad you said something, i have been reading these posts and i feel the same as you. Money sometimes does win out but most of the time the landowner gets the short end of the stick. i have seen clubs take away our properties by doubling what we were paying only to come back to us a year later trying to work something out. remember some people think they own the land when they get permission to hunt... __________________ President NJ Woods-n-Water

Posted: 10 Jul 2008 10:07 PM Last Edited By: RayCRGClub
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Wow...something new, a bidding war for property...battle of the PMs . 220 acres, 1/2 fields possible safety zone issues and landowner quirks...$5,000.... tops. Anything more and you're overpaying...just my opinion. Good luck. __________________ Cranford Rod and Gun Club United Bowhunters of New Jersey New Jersey Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs

Posted: 10 Jul 2008 10:39 PM
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Its every club for themself if you haven't found that out already after lossing property to the highest bidder another club. The property owner has the last say in who pays what. By you saying what you did shows the property owner just how serious you are to step up with $$ to lease their property with money and insurance. Separates who's leasing and who is not. Next you'll say its my fault for educating the property owner Maybe the property owner will thank me because I know I won't get any thank you for being honest All I'm saying is don't cheat the poor guy if he really don't know what its worth and now they won't be cheated when they realise hey my property is worth this and maybe I can get that?

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 6:58 AM
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I have had a lot of responce for leasing our 220 acres. Please send me an email with your clubs "resume" Ex. How many in your group, How many years hunting, professional experience (is any in law enforcement, lawyers...) Do you mainly gun, bow or both? Bird hunt? Will you post the property? How do you handle tresspassers? Do you have liabilty insurance? Can we be named as additional insured on your policy? Do you drive deer? Do you have any references? What is the name of you club? Do you have any other properties? Please answer all of the questions in your email so I can present you clubs info to my partners so that we can make a decision. I know this seems like a lot but I hope you can understand where we are coming from. We do not want ANY problems and would like to find a group that can stay with us for a while. It is very expesive to hold onto this property and we are looking to cover our expenses. I posted an aireial photo of the property so you should have a good idea what the property is like. Please let know what the most you are willing to pay for an annual lease. We are looking to get the best price we can with the best group. I have allready had a few groups offer over $9,000. Please get back to me soon. I will be making a decision in the next week.

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Posted: 14 Jul 2008 7:49 AM
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Send emails to tarpontim1138@yahoo.com

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 1:48 PM
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email sent

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 2:14 PM
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Quote: I have allready had a few groups offer over $9,000. gun club's are and will kill hunting in nj thay should be outlawed __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing Gene Police: You!! Out Of The Pool!Your mama is so fat, when she sings, its over

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 2:33 PM
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Where's the aerial photo?

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 3:02 PM
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Quote: offer over $9,000. I'm out __________________ http://www.killerskitchen.com , http://www.killersworld.com Vengeance is a dish best served cold !! Killers' Pro Staff

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 3:08 PM
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Quote: gun club's are and will kill hunting in nj thay should be outlawed why are gun clubs going to kill hunting in nj...i really dont think that little ole woodruff is going to kill hunting in nj... __________________ FIRE IT UP!!!!! Did you get em? Did you hear the gun go off!!!! Yea!!! Then get a ###### knife!!!

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 3:32 PM Last Edited By: luv2hunt
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tarpontim, some of the questions you posted above that you want the interested parties to answer should actually be requirments to whoever you end up leasing the property to. What I mean is that posting the property, setting a limit on the number of hunters on the property at one time, liability insurance and being added as an additional insured (just to name a few)must be provided by the group leasing your land. The insurance is self explanatory, limiting the number of participating hunters is taking safety into account, posting the property will ensure that everyone that will be hunting the property is familiar with it's boundaries. Just my .02.

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Wheres the aerial photo? __________________ Vice President Woodruff Rod and Gun Club "If i see BONE, Its goin HOME" - CAT *FIRE IT UP* Woke up at 5am, put on my camouflage Wiped off my .243 and fired up my Dodge Headed out to my ol' deerstand back in the pines Gonna get me a ten point buck with 11 inch tines, yeah FREE RUGGIE

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 6:25 PM
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Posted: 14 Jul 2008 8:03 PM
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Quote: By asking if you`s can be added as additional insured, dose that mean that after you `s lease it, YOU GUYS ARE STILL GONNA HUNT THERE, ???? Additionally insured just protects the Landlord(Property owner) from claims. __________________ >>>>----> NJH Pro Staffer.

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 3:47 PM
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By asking if you`s can be added as additional insured, dose that mean that after you `s lease it, YOU GUYS ARE STILL GONNA HUNT THERE, ????

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 4:15 PM
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Posted: 14 Jul 2008 7:01 PM
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we had great property in hackettstown and yes some jackass doubled what we were paying for the land $6400.its all about the $$$$

Posted: 14 Jul 2008 9:51 PM
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Quote: gun club's are and will kill hunting in nj thay should be outlawed what a great statement clubs are dieing. Let them pay what they want.

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 6:56 AM
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Quote: have had a lot of responce for leasing our 220 acres. Please send me an email with your clubs "resume" Ex. How many in your group, How many years hunting, professional experience (is any in law enforcement, lawyers...) Do you mainly gun, bow or both? Bird hunt? Will you post the property? How do you handle tresspassers? Do you have liabilty insurance? Can we be named as additional insured on your policy? Do you drive deer? Do you have any references? What is the name of you club? Do you have any other properties? Please answer all of the questions in your email so I can present you clubs info to my partners so that we can make a decision. I know this seems like a lot but I hope you can understand where we are coming from. We do not want ANY problems and would like to find a group that can stay with us for a while. It is very expesive to hold onto this property and we are looking to cover our expenses. I posted an aireial photo of the property so you should have a good idea what the property is like. Please let know what the most you are willing to pay for an annual lease. We are looking to get the best price we can with the best group. I have allready had a few groups offer over $9,000. Please get back to me soon. I will be making a decision in the next week THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY IS TRYING TO GET A BIDING WAR GOING FOR THE LAND AND YOU ARE FALLING FOR IT HAY TARPONITM I BID 20.000 NO 40'000 OOOOO HELL I WILL GO AS HI AS 80.000 IF I NEED TO __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing Gene Police: You!! Out Of The Pool!Your mama is so fat, when she sings, its over

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 7:35 AM
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I'm trying to get the most for the property with the right group of people. If everyone only knew what it costs us each year to own they would understand. It is not about being gready, it is just common sense. If you don't want to pay to hunt then go hunt on public land. I can't up load the image, it is too large. I will try and email everyone this afternoon the picture.

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 8:58 AM
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If people are not interested in the lease, stop Hi-Jacking the thread! I wish more people would just let some of us hunt on their properties, but hey its happening all around us! __________________ Want to be FIT? http://BootCross.com

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 9:12 AM
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Quote: I can't up load the image, it is too large. I will try and email everyone this afternoon the picture. Tim, if you would provide the address to those interested via PM's, we could simply google earth or MSN map the location. __________________ F&A Mason FTA-Member UBNJ-Member ASIS-Member, Central NJ NJOA-Central NJ Regional Manager www.sbisecurity.com

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 10:21 AM
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Quote: I'm trying to get the most for the property with the right group of people then say that right off the bat Quote: with the right group of people WITH A LOT OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing Gene Police: You!! Out Of The Pool!Your mama is so fat, when she sings, its over

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 10:25 AM
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THEN SAY I WENT 9 OR 10 OR 11.000 FOR THE LAND NOT THIS BS FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE YOU WENT! MONEY AND A LOT OF IT FOR THE LAND __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing Gene Police: You!! Out Of The Pool!Your mama is so fat, when she sings, its over

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 10:29 AM
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AND YES i have 250 acres of land and let people hunt it for NO $$$$$$$$$$$$$ just a little work on the land __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing Gene Police: You!! Out Of The Pool!Your mama is so fat, when she sings, its over

Posted: 15 Jul 2008 12:57 PM
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I'm glad that you are standing up for your property value and able to get what its worth to you and asking for the proper credentials and things that go with a proffesional lease sign agreement. Sorry boys but this is what it is coming to its this way in DE and MD so why shouldn't it be this way here. If you have the proper property set up then you should have no problem getting what you ask. Theres no bidding wars going on perioud! I stated what i felt your property could possibly be worth and here it is you are reporting what it's bringing from the offers on the table and these boys who aren't involved in your proprty don't like it one bit. You plainly see that Now with this said if next season depending on your leases agreement you start a bidding war then thats when I will say you are a greedy property owner and your property is not worth the paper its written on because anyone can come in and pay more. My club has lost some propertys because of higher prices the owners have charged or should I say another club has stolen. If the property owner didn't allow it then it wouldn't have happened. I can tell you this guys the way you talk the property owner don't want you on there leases. I wouldn't and already know what most of you think just from what you say on this issue. The higher property costs separates men from boys. Seedog maybe the guys that work on your property don't know what the value of their labor is if they stayed working at their jobs rather than doing farm work for your benifit. You still get paid in monitary value with free labor as if you were to get paid in a lease for you work. We don't work on any of our leases we pay to lease and hunt with no work. I work my proffesion and don't need to work on some ones farm for the benifit to hunt. The guys that hunt seedogs add up your labor and figure out what is paid to him. I have no idea where you all come up wth these ideas but you aren't even on the page of the lease and thats why you don't have the right to talk against this property owner. Sir you have the property and you are finding out what its worth what a club or some indivudals are willing to pay. I just hope that its a mutal agreement and all are satisfied and the hunters get the opportunity to hunt a really good property and theres no problems. The reall BS is whats being said to you for you just wanting to get what its worth. Greed tells you other wise and beware of the false statements.